Mental or random cycling statistics

[rallybanana]

There were more Belgian grand tour stage wins in the 1970s than there have been since the 1970s

 

[RedheadDane]

There were more Belgian grand tour stage wins in the 1970s than there have been since the 1970s

And how many of those GT stage win in the 1970s were won by Merckx?

 

[tobydawq]

And how many of those GT stage win in the 1970s were won by Merckx?

38 (49 if you count 1970 as being part of the 1970s).

 

[Netserk]

if you count 1970 as being part of the 1970s

You do.

 

[tobydawq]

You do.

But is it part of the 198th decade?

 

[yaco]

And Freddie maertens won 35 stages from 5 GT's only.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Why does 90% of the pedantry on here come from a handful of Danish posters? Is it such a staple of Danish culture or just random chance?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

But is it part of the 198th decade?

No, but the 1970s are any four-digit numbers that start with 197 to me, while I am willing to accept 1971 as the start of the 198th decade CE.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Why does 90% of the pedantry on here come from a handful of Danish posters? Is it such a staple of Danish culture or just random chance?

Well you don't have to be mental to be Danish, but it helps.

 

[Netserk]

No, but the 1970s are any four-digit numbers that start with 197 to me, while I am willing to accept 1971 as the start of the 198th decade CE.

This.

 

[RedheadDane]

Well you don't have to be mental to be Danish, but it helps.

I'm the exception that confirms the rule!

 

[proffate]

For what it's worth, I read that post and thought he was trolling, so I didn't engage. Are Danes easily triggered?

 

[Red Rick]

There were more Belgian grand tour stage wins in the 1970s than there have been since the 1970s

Shows you how competitive cycling was in the Merckx era.

 

[Salvarani]

Shows you how competitive cycling was in the Merckx era.

Yes, the world and sports in general has evolved since the 70s.

At some point we/you should only accept it and look at what he won. He will be considered the greatest cyclist for an indefinite amount of time. Move on.

 

[Red Rick]

Yes, the world and sports in general has evolved since the 70s.

At some point we/you should only accept it and look at what he won. He will be considered the greatest cyclist for an indefinite amount of time. Move on.

It doesn't matter, unless we want to compare riders from different eras.

 

[Salvarani]

It doesn't matter, unless we want to compare riders from different eras.

When talking about the greatest, it definitely matters what you won and what it comes down to in the end.

Other stuff is just subjective. People will always have their own "great" .

You have to sum it up with what the biggest wins were and nobody will ever beat Merckx in that department.

 

[Panda Claws]

Merckx is an absolute anomaly whatever era you compare him with. Hard to think he would be anything but good today imo.

Nobody compares as a one-day rider and the ones that come closest where nowhere close to (regularly) winning GT's.
Meanwhile the best of the best GT riders are on par with him at best and were nowhere close in one-day races.

Yeah this is basically what Pogacar is doing now.

The '70s (and to some degree the '80s) were also known for having a multitude of riders achieving a trophy case (or at least having incredible years) that other eras couldn't: De Vlaeminck, Hinault, Kelly, Moser, Maertens, Gimondi, ...

This is used as a way of discrediting Merckx because other riders from his era also dominate the all-time rankings (as a distant 2nd to him but still). But today's era is shaping up to be much of the same with Pogacar, Van der Poel and Evenepoel having consecutive seasons with combinations of wins we hadn't seen in decades.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Yeah this is basically what Pogacar is doing now.

Except he‘s losing to Danish Ocaña a lot.

 

[RedheadDane]

Here's a interesting little detail:

Demare has four wins this year. That, in itself, is not the interesting part, the interesting part is that he got them for two different teams, the first two for FDJ, and the last two for Arkea.

 

[Izzyeviel]

Except he‘s losing to Danish Ocaña a lot.

only in one race. He wins all the others.

 

[RedheadDane]

Here's a quick run-down of the nationalities on each WT team next year.

Spoiler: Alpecin-Deceuninck

10 different nationalities
12 riders: Belgium
4 riders: Germany, and the Netherlands
2 riders: Australia, Austria, and Italy
1 rider: Denmark, France, New Zealand, and Switzerland

Spoiler: Arkéa - B&B Hotels

9 different nationalities
16 riders: France
3 riders: Belgium, and Italy
2 riders: Spain
1 rider: Australia, Great Britain, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and Poland

Spoiler: Astana Qazaqstan Team

10 different nationalities
10 riders: Kazakhstan
7 riders: Italy
2 riders: Colombia, Denmark, Germany, and the Netherlands
1 rider: Ecuador, Eritrea, Great Britain, and Russia

Spoiler: Bahrain - Victorious

17 different nationalities
6 riders: Italy
3 riders: Germany
2 riders: Australia, Great Britain, and Slovenia
1 rider: Austria, Bahrain, Colombia, Croatia, Denmark, Japan, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Serbia, Spain, and Taiwan

Spoiler: BORA - hansgrohe

14 different nationalities
10 riders: Germany
3 riders: Austria
2 riders: Australia, Colombia, Italy, and Poland
1 rider: Belgium, Denmark, Ireland, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Russia, Slovenia, and Spain

Spoiler: Cofidis

7 different nationalities
14 riders: France
6 riders: Belgium
5 riders: Spain
2 riders: Great Britain
1 rider: Germany, Italy, and Poland

Spoiler: Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team

8 different nationalities
18 riders: France
5 riders: Belgium
1 rider: Australia, Austria, Finland, Ireland, Italy, and the USA

Spoiler: EF Education-EasyPost

16 different nationalities
6 riders: Great Britain
3 riders: Ireland
2 riders: Colombia, Denmark, Ecuador, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, and the USA
1 rider: Australia, Costa Rica, Japan, Portugal, South Africa, Spain and Switzerland

Spoiler: Groupama - FDJ

9 different nationalities
15 riders: France
3 riders: Great Britain
2 riders: New Zealand, and Switzerland
1 rider: Italy, Lithuania, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and Norway

Spoiler: INEOS Grenadiers

13 different nationalities
9 riders: Great Britain
4 riders: Spain
3 riders: Italy
2 riders: Colombia and the USA
1 rider: Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Ecuador, Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, and Poland

Spoiler: Intermarché - Wanty

9 different nationalities
9 riders: Belgium
4 riders: France, Italy, and the Netherlands
2 riders: Estonia
1 rider: Eritrea, Germany, New Zealand, and South Africa

Spoiler: Lidl - Trek

14 different nationalities
7 riders: Italy
5 riders: Belgium
3 riders: the Netherlands
2 riders: Denmark, and Spain
1 rider: Austria, Czech Republic, Eritrea, France, Great Britain, Latvia, Luxembourg, South Africa, and the USA

Spoiler: Movistar Team

10 different nationalities
14 riders: Spain
4 riders: Colombia, and Italy
2 riders: Portugal
1 rider: Austria, Brazil, Denmark, France, Switzerland, and the USA

Spoiler: Soudal - Quick Step

10 different nationalities
13 riders: Belgium
3 riders: France, and Italy
2 riders: Czech Republic, and Denmark
1 rider: Great Britain, the Netherlands, Slovakia, Spain, and the USA

Spoiler: Team dsm-firmenich PostNL

10 different nationalities
11 riders: the Netherlands
4 riders: Australia
3 riders: France, and Great Britain
2 riders: Germany
1 rider: Czech Republic, Denmark, Latvia, New Zealand, and the USA

Spoiler: Team Jayco AlUla

14 different nationalities
11 riders: Australia
3 riders: Italy, and the Netherlands
2 riders: Denmark, and Germany
1 rider: Colombia, Ethiopia, Great Britain, Ireland, New Zealand, Norway, Slovenia, Switzerland, and the USA

Spoiler: Team Visma | Lease a Bike

11 different nationalities:
12 riders: the Netherlands
4 riders: Belgium
2 riders: Great Britain, Norway, and the USA
1 rider: Denmark, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy, and Slovenia

Spoiler: UAE Team Emirates

19 different nationalities
4 riders: Portugal
3 riders: Italy, and Spain
2 riders: Colombia, New Zealand, Slovenia, and Switzerland
1 rider: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Great Britain, Mexico, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, and the USA

Conclusion: Some teams have a more even distribution of nationalities than others.

 

[Izzyeviel]

Riders who have won the first world tour race they've competed in?

 

[tobydawq]

Riders who have won the first world tour race they've competed in?

Well, the WorldTour began in 2009, so Contador and Scarponi who won PN and TA that year

But that might not be what you were going for.

I would be surprised if anyone has done that.

 

[Izzyeviel]

I'm just thankful i'm not a cycling statistician!

 

[RedheadDane]

You know what? I'm gonna continue my nationality run-down thing.

First Women's World Teams:

Spoiler: AG Insurance - Soudal Team

9 different nationalities
4 riders: The Netherlands
3 riders: Belgium
2 riders: Australia
1 rider: Italy, Mauritius, New Zealand, Spain, South Africa, and Sweden

Spoiler: Canyon//SRAM Racing

9 different nationalities
3 riders: Germany and Great Britain
2 riders: Australia and Poland
1 rider: Belgium, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland, and the USA

Spoiler: CERATIZIT-WNT Pro Cycling Team

9 different nationalities
3 riders: Germany and Italy
2 riders: France and Poland
1 rider: Austria, Great Britian, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and Spain

Spoiler: FDJ - SUEZ

5 different nationalities
7 riders: France
4 riders: The netherlands
3 riders: Italy
1 rider: Australia and Denmark

Spoiler: Fenix-Deceuninck

6 different nationalities
8 riders: The Netherlands
3 rides: Belgium
2 riders: Austria and Great Britain
1 rider: Italy and Switzerland

Spoiler: Human Powered Health

10 different nationalities
3 riders: Italy and the USA
2 riders: France and Poland
1 rider: Germany, Great Britain, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Switzerland, and Ukraine

Spoiler: Lidl - Trek

8 different nationalities
4 riders: Australia and Italy
3 riders: Great Britain and the Netherlands
2 riders: Canada
1 rider: Belgium, France, and Germany

Spoiler: Liv AlUla Jayco

9 different nationalities
5 riders: Australia
3 riders: The Netherlands
2 riders: Italy
1 rider: New Zealand, Norway, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and Trinidad & Tobago

Spoiler: Movistar Team

10 different nationalities
4 riders: Spain
2 riders: Great Britain and the Netherlands
1 rider: Canada, Colombia, Cuba, Denmark, France, Germany, and Serbia

Spoiler: Roland

10 different nationalities
3 riders: Italy
1 rider: Austria, Canada, Cyprus, Great Britain, the Netherlands, Russia, Sweden, Switzerland, and Vietnam

Spoiler: Team dsm-firmenich PostNL

7 different nationalities
6 riders: The Netherlands
4 riders: Great Britain
3 riders: Italy
2 riders: France
1 rider: Australia, Germany, and the USA

Spoiler: Team SD Worx - Protime

8 different nationalities
7 riders: The Netherlands
2 riders: Italy and Luxembourg
1 rider: Belgium, Great Britain, Hungary, New Zealand, and Switzerland

Spoiler: Team Visma | Lease a Bike

4 different nationalities
11 riders: The Netherlands
1 rider: France, Germany, and Great Britain

Spoiler: UAE Team ADQ

11 different nationalities
5 riders: Italy
2 riders: Poland
1 rider: Belarus, Czech Republic, Great Britain, Latvia, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Russia, Slovenia, and the UAE

Spoiler: Uno-X Mobility

8 different nationalities
5 riders: Norway
4 riders: Denmark
2 riders: Great Britain and the Netherlands
1 rider: Canada, Finland, Italy, and Sweden