Teams & Riders Arnaud De Lie’s Hips Don’t Lie Discussion Thread

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I agree, it's definitely his age. He'll learn over time. Look at Evenepoel and how he has matured since he was 19.

The only difference would have been there would now have been 10 pages of people calling him an arrogant brat.

 

[Netserk]

And a dozen fanboys endorsing the behaviour as refreshingly honest. Just like 45.

 

[Berniece]

And a dozen fanboys endorsing the behaviour as refreshingly honest. Just like 45.

I never endorsed his behaviour. Just as with De Lie I was able to see it in context, which was mostly, these kids are young. When I think about how I was when I was 20, I wouldn't have called my behaviour adult-like.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

And a dozen fanboys endorsing the behaviour as refreshingly honest. Just like 45.

That... never happened.
It was put in perspective, sure. But that behaviour was disproved of by most if not all.

 

[Rob5091]

Sporza's unnamed 'spy in the peloton' (or some journalist making sh*t up) says De Lie "looks a bit nervous".
Considering that De Lie is taking on the big boys now with everyone and his dog knowing how good he is, it's not surprising he's having a tougher time (even though it's just March, so a bit early to panic).

https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...ieves-pressure-is-getting-to-belgian-prospect

"You can also tell by his behaviour. De Lie looks a bit nervous," says the spy in his latest report for Sporza. "The fact that he has not yet won causes unrest in his head. It is something he is confronted with for the first time in his career."

"With a stage win in Paris-Nice, De Lie could well be set for a fruitful spring. He will want to seize every opportunity he gets in the Race to the Sun."

Looking at Paris-Nice, only stage 2, or maybe 5 as well, will give De Lie any chance of a win.

 

[Keldergoat]

Wielerflits claims that his MSR participation is in jeopardy. Would be the next blow to an already troubling preseason.

'Arnaud De Lie start zaterdag niet in Milaan-San Remo'

Arnaud De Lie heeft Milaan-San Remo van zijn programma geschrapt, schrijft La Dernière Heure. Volgens Het Laatste Nieuws wordt pas vanmiddag een definitief besluit genomen over zijn deelname aan het eerste monument van 2024. De Lie kende een wat minder begin van zijn seizoen in Spanje, maar was...

www.wielerflits.nl

 

[Rob5091]

To be honest, De Lie might just as well skip MSR as he'd be better off getting back to 100%. It's not as though he's a red hot favourite and there's some minor one day races he can do instead.

 

[Samamba]

To be honest, De Lie might just as well skip MSR as he'd be better off getting back to 100%. It's not as though he's a red hot favourite and there's some minor one day races he can do instead.

Yeah but those minor races he's riding now are pretty dangerous ones. Not really a fan of it but ok, I guess his problem is more mentally right now and he needs that win. He ain't winning MSR, denain is a good chance IF he stays out of throuble. But on the other hand, the chance he crashes in one of those 2 races is not small at all.

In general I'm assuming his injury's are healed as he's racing this week and it's just a form thing. That's positive I guess. But who knows, they also let him start PN while obviously being injured.

 

[Didinho]

He's racing Denain (14/3) and Bredene (15/3) to get back in his rhythm.

 

[joseph89]

He's racing Denain (14/3) and Bredene (15/3) to get back in his rhythm.

LD probably hoping a win will get him back on track, good decision.

 

[Didinho]

LD probably hoping a win will get him back on track, good decision.

Yeah he's not gonna be close to making the split on the Poggio in this form, even at 100% it will be very difficult. More chances to win now, hope he stays calm. Looks too eager for his 1st win.
At first I didn't expect that fall to be decisive for his schedule. Maybe it's more the mentality part.

 

[Rob5091]

It seems that De Lie is one of those guys who are always involved in something happening, but the guy has to race, so better on home soil and get back some form.

 

[Sciatic]

He's racing Denain (14/3) and Bredene (15/3) to get back in his rhythm.

But if he doesn’t do well he’ll ask “ why am I doing this sh&tshow of a race”?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

But if he doesn’t do well he’ll ask “ why am I doing this sh&tshow of a race”?

De Lie and Uijtdebroeks come from a special program of Belgian Cycling with the sole purpose to make Evenepoel look more likeable.

 

[Sciatic]

De Lie and Uijtdebroeks come from a special program of Belgian Cycling with the sole purpose to make Evenepoel look more likeable.

Ha!!

 

[proffate]

He ain't winning MSR

If Gerald Ciolek can win MSR then I think De Lie can manage it

 

[Samamba]

If Gerald Ciolek can win MSR then I think De Lie can manage it

We are not living in 2013

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

If Gerald Ciolek can win MSR then I think De Lie can manage it

Not with De Lie’s form this year.

 

[Sciatic]

Not with De Lie’s form this year.

If Gerald Ciolek can win MSR then I think De Lie can manage it

Wins like those of Ciolek and Goss at MSR occurred when they barely hung on to the lead group of puncheurs as they created the Poggio, and then sat on for the sprint win. In recent years that “punch” by puncheurs has been too much for any true sprinters to hang on. And with Pogacar and MVDP there the same will likely be true this year.

 

[DNP-Old]

Wins like those of Ciolek and Goss at MSR occurred when they barely hung on to the lead group of puncheurs as they created the Poggio, and then sat on for the sprint win. In recent years that “punch” by puncheurs has been too much for any true sprinters to hang on. And with Pogacar and MVDP there the same will likely be true this year.

This is too easy and diminishes those Ciolek and Goss victories somewhat. Very true, they did nothing more than hanging on and following wheels, but at the same time those two editions are some of the hardest Sanremo has ever seen. Goss went to the Poggio in a group of about thirty riders after seeing rain all day, whereas Ciolek won a race that had to be shortened due to much more rain and even hail. You know who'd flourish in those conditions? De Lie.

What did play into their hands is Pozzato tactics of sucking the wheel of Gilbert for 300 kilometers. Pogacar would have trouble staying away too if Van Aert did nothing but suck his wheel like a pacifier.

 

[DNP-Old]

Sanremo is a weird race though. I mean, it was only three years ago we saw Caleb freaking Ewan countering a Van der Poel(?) attack on Poggio like he was out delivering the newspaper. Would De Lie be capable of that at some point in the future? I think so, given he has much more raw power.

 

[frisenfruitig]

Tbh, I don't know if riding these small races is a good idea. He already had his good shape before the crash, might as well just recover, train well and be ready for the big races instead of possibly crashing again in a small race nobody cares about.

 

[Rob5091]

These " small races nobody cares about" are the lifeblood of pro-cycling, and give guys and young uns a chance to shine. A lot of people put their time and energy (and money) into these so called "s**t races" so I think we should be grateful that they do.

 

[frisenfruitig]

These " small races nobody cares about" are the lifeblood of pro-cycling, and give guys and young uns a chance to shine. A lot of people put their time and energy (and money) into these so called "s**t races" so I think we should be grateful that they do.

Sure, but if your big goal is to win a big race a couple of weeks later, you have more to lose than to gain by starting there.

 

[Keldergoat]

These " small races nobody cares about" are the lifeblood of pro-cycling, and give guys and young uns a chance to shine. A lot of people put their time and energy (and money) into these so called "s**t races" so I think we should be grateful that they do.

You can equally appreciate smaller races, the organizers behind and the effort they put into it and have your doubts on De Lie's calendar changes. This is the winner of Quebec, was one of the strongest in de Omloop, I fully get the slight disappointment when such a rider doesn't compete for a monument.