Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard: The Butterfly Effect

[Krzysztof_O]

So not as bad as it looked, maybe those injuries can be managed. Let's wait for more official info but If he can resume training within 3-4 weeks then he should be able to prepare peak form for July and show the world...in other words Teddy can't relax yet.

 

[Cassirer]

That is "good" news, bad and painful obviously and netter wait till tomorrow for a full picture, but I'm very releaved.

 

[Froome]

Even if doesn't go to the Tour, at least it's not a career ending injury, and certainly he is on to the Vuelta.

 

[Boehmand]

"Great" news it isn't worse, it looked horrible, but it is still a serious dent in the Tour preparation.

Broken ribs take around 6 weeks to mend, and throughout that time breathing is restricted which significantly hampers training.

Crash looked weird too - many of the riders seemed to crash without contact with others, so the road must have been exceptionally slippery or bumpy in that corner.

 

[jmdirt]

Depends on the kind of rib fractures. Because heavy breathing or even worse coughing with broken ribs can be pure misery.

Well, since there was specualtion about movement this is much better.

 

[jmdirt]

Obviously we'll find out more details in the coming days and weeks but I think there's a decent chance it won't affect him at all for the Tour

But certainly could affect his prep.

 

[Rackham]

Obviously we'll find out more details in the coming days and weeks but I think there's a decent chance it won't affect him at all for the Tour

If Pog's wrist fracture in Liège last year affected his TdF, then there's no way Vingegaard isn't affected by this.

I think people should just be 'relieved' he's okay & it doesn't look career ending.

 

[Froome]

Depends on the time of the recovery for his ribs.

 

[jaylew]

If Pog's wrist fracture in Liège last year affected his TdF, then there's no way Vingegaard isn't affected by this.

I think people should just be 'relieved' he's okay & it doesn't look career ending.

I still think there's at least a fair chance he's not affected. Wrists are different from collarbones and ribs. Every situation is different of course, and we don't know all of the details but while a wrist may seem minor there a ton of bones in that area and it wouldn't surprise me at all that the wrist would take longer to come back from. That was certainly the case for me.

 

[Rackham]

I still think there's at least a fair chance he's not affected. Wrists are different from collarbones and ribs. Every situation is different of course, and we don't know all of the details but while a wrist may seem minor there a ton of bones in that area and it wouldn't surprise me at all that the wrist would take longer to come back from. That was certainly the case for me.

Well, I'm also looking at the impact he took. Just visually, i.e. he almost came to a sudden stop after colliding with a pole. His body took a serious blow.

I think fans (& even just people who want a great TdF from a neutral standpoint) obviously want good news but as always I think it should just be 'wait & see'. Fractures, breaks, bruises & shocks aren't all equal, nor is the recovery.

 

[Cookster15]

Sounds like he is a little fortunate. But it is more than one rib broken and his training will be affected, but how much won't be known until maybe the TdF itself.

 

[jaylew]

But certainly could affect his prep.

It absolutely could. It's certainly too early to come to any definite conclusions at this point. I've seen it go both ways.

 

[sam6]

Could have been worse, obviously will affect his preparations but he should be there still and mostly competitive. Will be like Pogi was last year

 

[ppanther92]

Even if doesn't go to the Tour, at least it's not a career ending injury, and certainly he is on to the Vuelta.

He (almost) certainly goes to the Tour and will be competitive. The only thing is, not all fractures are equal and heal equally well but with the collarbone you are back on the bike in max. 10 days (stationary), with the ribs one has to see a bit (but I would assume they would have mentioned a punctured lung or any more serious complication for that matter). I would speculate that its rather comparable to Pogacar last year from the "time out" at very first sight. Happened even some weeks earlier, which may play in Vingegaards cards slightly.

In any way - good news under the circumstances in my opinion.

 

[Froome]

He (almost) certainly goes to the Tour and will be competitive. The only thing is, not all fractures are equal and heal equally well but with the collarbone you are back on the bike in max. 10 days (stationary), with the ribs one has to see a bit (but I would assume they would have mentioned a punctured lung or any more serious complication for that matter). I would speculate that its rather comparable to Pogacar last year from the "time out" at very first sight. Happened even some weeks earlier, which may play in Vingegaards cards slightly.

In any way - good news under the circumstances in my opinion.

We hope that scenario, for a good race in July.

If he enters in the Tour in a acceptable shape, he can also survive and improve the shape in the first 2 weeks, before the last week where everything will be decided. The Tour 2024 is backloaded, all important in the last 9 days of racing.

Let's see how it goes.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Imo ribs are cleary worse than a wrist injury, but it ain't as bad as we thought first.

 

[hfgon1]

Imo ribs are cleary worse than a wrist injury, but it ain't as bad as we thought first.

Yeah, seems like he has a more serious injury than Pogacar last year but it is also 2 1/2 weeks earlier in the season. Would be great to see him at the Tour.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Very good news given the circunstances!! We all know he was injured and I feared a broken pelvis or broken leg but a upper body injury make him able to defend his Tour's title. Almost 3 months to recover. C'mon Jonas!

 

[Peyroteo94]

Sounds like he is a little fortunate. But it is more than one rib broken and his training will be affected, but how much won't be known until maybe the TdF itself.

In Dauphiné, we will know if he will able to be in top shpe in the Tour

 

[Oldermanish]

He moved one leg while lying on the ground, he couldn´t do that with a serious injury of his spine, or?

You could, but shouldn't.

Same injuries as Wout's, just a week apart. Crazy, but like some said it could've been worse. Speedy recovery.

Hopefully the sternum is stable and doesn't need intervention. The situation sounds a little optimistic and, by comparison; would be much better off than Pogacar's wrist injury. We all know how that prep panned out for Le Tour.
You can't duplicate outdoor hard efforts adequately on a stationary bike.

 

[Cookster15]

In Dauphiné, we will know if he will able to be in top shpe in the Tour

Not necessarily. Pogacar’s true shape wasn’t revealed until stage 17 of the 2023 TdF.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Not necessarily. Pogacar’s true shape wasn’t revealed until stage 17 of the 2023 TdF.

But Pogacar is a freak. He can be competitive even if he is on vacations. Vingegaard doesn't have the same base level, we will a clear picture about his shape in my opinion.

 

[Froome]

Not necessarily. Pogacar’s true shape wasn’t revealed until stage 17 of the 2023 TdF.

Pogacar showed is true shape on stage 17, but on stage 20 he already showed again his fake shape.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Well now he'll have time to return to the fish factory for a few weeks and come back even stronger.
Having had injuries before might make it easier for him, at least mentally, to get through it.

 

[FanBoi]

Well now he'll have time to return to the fish factory for a few weeks and come back even stronger.
Having had injuries before might make it easier for him, at least mentally, to get through it.

I think you are correct. Back in 2017 he broke a femur, which obviously is a far far worse injury. Held him out for almost 9 months.

This injury is under the circumstances not too bad.

However in my opinion he will have it way harder than e.g. pogacar last year, as broken ribs can hinder your breathing, which is the most important when exercising sports which require high stamina like running or cycling. A broken collarbone is not the problem.