Amstel is Gold, Jerry, Gold! Men's Classic One-Day Race, April 14, 2024

[shadowrider]

Yes, but there are other factors like endocrine fatigue, pushing the nervous and circulatory system, etc.

Of course, but not comparable with running. It's impossible to run a marathon at a high level every day during three weeks. Not even on two consecutive days.

 

[staubsauger]

It's the Amstel Gold Race, not the Hertog Jan Race...

They used to ride along the old Brand brewery in Wijlre in the past actually!

In the 2001 Amstel Gold Race. You can see the brewery when Dekker catches in on Armstrong.

 

[tobydawq]

They could do with a nice, clean race after all the shithousery of the last three years.

 

[staubsauger]

They could do with a nice, clean race after all the shithousery of the last three years.

Last year was a good race apart from that car incident IMHO. Race broke open quite early. Much action. Even after Pogacar broke away the fight for 2nd between Healy & Pidcock was exciting and the personal knocking between Kron & Lutsenko was as well!

 

[tobydawq]

Last year was a good race apart from that car incident IMHO. Race broke open quite early. Much action. Even after Pogacar broke away the fight for 2nd between Healy & Pidcock was exciting and the personal knocking between Kron & Lutsenko was as well!

Yes, but I was talking specifically about the bad organisation. I agree it was a good race that unfortunately already had been opened up before we went live. The same could happen Sunday, annoyingly.

 

[DNP-Old]

Yes, but I was talking specifically about the bad organisation. I agree it was a good race that unfortunately already had been opened up before we went live. The same could happen Sunday, annoyoingly.

You are in luck, because this will be the very last time the ever so incompetent Leo van Vliet (that man has such a punchable face) will be race director. As of next year, Flanders Classics will reign. This isn't much better tbh and that basketballer is just as annoying, but hey, at least he doesn't think all those people have gathered just to watch him.

 

[Pantani_lives]

The record of the longest solo in the Amstel Gold Race probably won't be broken.

Spoiler: Spoiler

Jelle Nijdam did 190 km solo in 1988.

 

[velaso montador]

Why are phillipsen so high on the bookies? Shouldnt he be way lower consdering its kinda hard or am i wrong and hes just thats strong?

 

[proffate]

Cycling causes little muscle damage or damage to joints and ligaments (quite a bit in Roubaix). Running a marathon of about two hours is much more grueling than a cycling race of 260 km.

I must be doing something wrong then...

 

[proffate]

It still doesn’t make sense to me that guys can be at top level the week after a max effort 6 hour race (even if only a couple hours are true max). Even for the freaks, there’s not many other strength or endurance sports that work that way.

I was always told that it takes 7-10 days for a training effort to have any effect. And the longest it's ever taken me to recover from a very hard/long effort is about 5 days. So a week between cycling efforts seems pretty normal? Not to mention that MVDP grew up racing CX which is exactly 1 or 2 hours hard each and every weekend.

 

[RedheadDane]

They used to ride along the old Brand brewery in Wijlre in the past actually!

I still think he should drink the type of beer after which the race takes its name.

Of course, the UCI are probably gonna be a bunch of party-poopers, and prohibit the consumption of any alcoholic beverages (by riders) before the race...

 

[search]

Why are phillipsen so high on the bookies? Shouldnt he be way lower consdering its kinda hard or am i wrong and hes just thats strong?

most bookies don't have odds yet, so no idea what numbers on Philipsen you're seeing, but as far as I understood before Roubaix, he isn't even sure to start.

 

[velaso montador]

mvdp 2.5 philipsen is second with 12.

Followed by pidcock 15 healy 17 and Skjelmose 19.
Phillipsen second seem really really wierd too me or am i missing something?

 

[staubsauger]

most bookies don't have odds yet, so no idea what numbers on Philipsen you're seeing, but as far as I understood before Roubaix, he isn't even sure to start.

Philipsen also was on the startlist for the Tour of Flanders, until he wasn't anymore. So you might be correct, that's he's not going to ride Amstel after all!

 

[Berniece]

mvdp 2.5 philipsen is second with 12.

Followed by pidcock 15 healy 17 and Skjelmose 19.
Phillipsen second seem really really wierd too me or am i missing something?

No, it's ridiculous. If they also have head-to-heads I would bet against Philipsen.

 

[search]

I just looked up the interview, here's what Philipsen said himself last week:

(gt) For some colleagues, spring ends after Sunday. Not for you. Your name is still on the start list of the hilly classic Amstel Gold Race (Sunday April 14, ed.).

“That is still the case. (Grins) But I'm curious whether I can continue my form for so long. That is also a question mark for me. The big goal of course awaits on Sunday. My participation in the Amstel should mainly be seen as a test. A test in which I want to explore my possibilities in that kind of one-day work. After Sunday it will become clear whether or not I will appear at the start in Maastricht.”

But regardless of this... yeah, I'd be surprised as well if he's much of a factor. Amstel doesn't look like a race particularly suited to him.

 

[BigCoward]

I must be doing something wrong then...

You must be weak, I've watched 4 or 5 hours of the Tour de France for 3 weeks loads of times and been perfectly fine.

 

[RedheadDane]

You must be weak, I've watched 4 or 5 hours of the Tour de France for 3 weeks loads of times and been perfectly fine.

Well... I sometimes get a sore neck/back from bad posture...

 

[shadowrider]

I must be doing something wrong then...

You have to compare highly trained riders and highly trained marathonrunners. It has to do with the impact of the feet on the soil. Which cause small tears in the muscles and microscopic cracks in the bones. Something that rarely or never happens in cycling. Unless due to (heavy) crashes.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Well... I sometimes get a sore neck/back from bad posture...

I usually get a sore back from watching Mollema or Uijtdebroeks. But i forget all about that when Vansevenant slides onto the screen and i start to boogie on Disco Inferno.

 

[staubsauger]

I usually get a sore back from watching Mollema or Uijtdebroeks. But i forget all about that when Vansevenant slides onto the screen and i start to boogie on Disco Inferno.

Doesn't Vansevenants movements look like this Thunderdome live videos rather?

 

[proffate]

You have to compare highly trained riders and highly trained marathonrunners. It has to do with the impact of the feet on the soil. Which cause small tears in the muscles and microscopic cracks in the bones. Something that rarely or never happens in cycling. Unless due to (heavy) crashes.

My point is that cyclists are obviously damaging their muscles, otherwise why do they need sougniers every day?

I'm aware that cyclists can sustain more total hours of exercise per week, as well as the relative occurrence of RSIs.

 

[velaso montador]

No, it's ridiculous. If they also have head-to-heads I would bet against Philipsen.

yeah my first thoughts too... Have head to head vs skjelmose. Seems to me like a easy skjelmose win. Hes never ever ridden Amstel, phillipsen? I would be shocked (and ofc highly impressed but cant see it) if he would beat Skjelmose here, cant see it tho wierd odds and bet.

On another note i do remember phillipsen was bookie favorite for Glasgow WC during tdf

 

[RedheadDane]

I usually get a sore back from watching Mollema or Uijtdebroeks. But i forget all about that when Vansevenant slides onto the screen and i start to boogie on Disco Inferno.

You are aware you don't have to replicate the movement of the riders you're watching?

 

[red_flanders]

You are aware you don't have to replicate the movement of the riders you're watching?

When I want to freak out my MTB buddies, I do "the Escartin" up the climbs.

They thought I was having a seizure...