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Old 11-03-12, 12:48
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I think parents considering to send their kid to Contador's junior team should check out the Contador's Head-thread first and then reconsider.
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Old 11-03-12, 12:53
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I think parents considering to send their kid to Contador's junior team should check out the Contador's Head-thread first and then reconsider.
Especially posts #209 till #213
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Old 11-03-12, 13:24
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I think parents considering to send their kid to Contador's junior team should check out the Contador's Head-thread first and then reconsider.
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You know if you try I'm sure you can see doping in everything. What if he gets a kid, oh he's probably gonna dope the kid too! He's starting a junior team and until there's evidence he's doping those kids don't suggest it, you're just embarrassing yourself ffs. Those young lads are over the moon with this chance they're getting. Life is so much better if you're not suspicious about everything.
1. I never said that, nor do I support the implications the TS may have intended with this post.
But I do see an underlying question in this; is there room in cycling for dubious figures, that's all ..

As typical fanboy-like behavior you ignored this completely and jumped directly on the offensive side, which I find rather embarrassing for you, because you can't resist to shout out against anything negative to do with Contador (as every fanboy, and thus can't look at it with an open mind).

2. "Life is so much better if you're not suspicious about everything"

We are talking on a Cycling forum related to doping .. and, I hate to repeat this so much but, cycling is to blame for this
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Old 11-03-12, 13:33
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While i applause the idea of inspiring youngster getting involved in cycling it should be questioned during the currrent scheme of things. Not because of AC (in the bigger perspective he is just a pawn) but due to the many dirty hands who would get themselves involved in this project. Remember how Armstrong used Livestrong and cancer as his cover when building out the Omertá from the the days of Festina and Telekom.

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But I think it comes down to the question if there's room in cycling for such figures (in a leading role) ...
Of course. It is not like AC one day entered cycling and said: "Ok, lets set up a doping regime here". Unless, of course, he isnt responsible for the blood doping program in the 90´ies according to the Clinic. He came in as a young guy in the Era when the americans via their italian connection fueled the peleton with PEDs, offering covering up, doctors, lawyers (mainly via the Ferrari family) and where you was told if you wanted to be a winner you had to dope to catch up. As what have been said by Ullrich and pretty much everyone in the top 10 between 1998-2005.

Cleaning up in cycling begins from the top (organisers, federations, sponsors) and not the bottom (riders).

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I'm all for rehabilitation and helping in the right way (learn form your mistakes and prevent others from doing so) but cycling got itself it this question-everything position, so to conclude evenly shallow, maybe you should get your head looked at.
Hardly any "mistake" from a few that the cycling world has been runned like a mob from the Ferrari family. It is a highly organised network with doctors, lawyers, bankers, money laundering and tax fraud involving 20+cycling teams and a handful of triathletes and athletes from other sports. Removing the experimented riders so that the guys pulling the strings can ruin and corrupt the next generation? Great idea.

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You know if you try I'm sure you can see doping in everything. What if he gets a kid, oh he's probably gonna dope the kid too! He's starting a junior team and until there's evidence he's doping those kids don't suggest it, you're just embarrassing yourself ffs. Those young lads are over the moon with this chance they're getting. Life is so much better if you're not suspicious about everything.
I think you are wrong here. People are in general not as suspicious as they should be. Because of this its why the true evils goes free in this world. If we take TS he is of course very suspicious about Contador but that is as far as his worldview allows him.
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Old 11-03-12, 13:41
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1. I never said that, nor do I support the implications the TS may have intended with this post.
But I do see an underlying question in this; is there room in cycling for dubious figures, that's all ..

As typical fanboy-like behavior you ignored this completely and jumped directly on the offensive side, which I find rather embarrassing for you, because you can't resist to shout out against anything negative to do with Contador (as every fanboy, and thus can't look at it with an open mind).


My post wasn't about you in particular btw more about the average regular clinic poster
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Old 11-03-12, 13:42
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I think you are wrong here. People are in general not as suspicious as they should be. Because of this its why the true evils goes free in this world. If we take TS he is of course very suspicious about Contador but that is as far as his worldview allows him.
I'm not saying people shouldn't be suspicious I'm just saying people shouldn't be suspicious about everything
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I'm not saying people shouldn't be suspicious I'm just saying people shouldn't be suspicious about everything
Would you let your child accept candy from a convicted child molester? There's nothing wrong with the candy, I assure you!

Parents of those juniors need to be invited by national child protection services to speak about their responsibility to keep kids out of harm at least until a certain age.
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Old 11-03-12, 17:05
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Would you let your child accept candy from a convicted child molester? There's nothing wrong with the candy, I assure you!

Parents of those juniors need to be invited by national child protection services to speak about their responsibility to keep kids out of harm at least until a certain age.
By the way. Those "kids" are 17-18 years old. They're not babies anymore.
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Would you let a 17-18 year old accept candy from a sexual predator?

I believe the word we are looking for here is 'grooming'
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