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Old 11-03-12, 13:05
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ACF - posting that I am "nice" to you will ruin my reputation for good.

On the whole, by and large, in most cases, etc - people tend to be somewhat more 'radical' when younger, and then tend to grow more 'conservative' as they make their way through life. It's a bit confusing for us older 'radicals' to be confronted by young(ish) 'conservatives', such as yourself. That's my take, anyway.

Rhub - surely you realize by now that Glenn's posts need to be taken with an entire bag of salt? He rarely exposes the back of his tongue, he's such a tease.

I really will despair if this election goes to the wrong wing. How any thinking person can even consider Romney is utterly beyond me, since it's evident that he has no clue about how to deal with any of the major issues facing the US and the world except to raise defense spending another 2 trillion, cut taxes for the wealthy, and maybe bomb Iran. Total, utter madness. I suppose that it is a measure of the wrong wing's desperation that the biggest issue for them as we approach D-day is that the POTUS somehow "lied" about the unfortunate events in Benghazi, as if those four deaths were somehow his direct fault. Blame Obama for four deaths in Libya, but don't 'blame' Dubya for 9/11. Typically Republitard (I use the term advisedly) thinking.

Obama, alas, is merely the LOTE.
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Old 11-03-12, 13:55
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This just in!

Chrysler CEO calls Romney "full of sh!t" on Twitter.

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Now, for those unaware of who Ralph Gilles is, let us check on the job title he holds at his companies website:

President and Chief Executive Officer – SRT Brand and Motorsports, Chrysler Group LLC
Senior Vice President – Product Design, Chrysler Group LLC

Ralph Gilles has been with Chrysler since 1992, where be began in the design office. He is the brains behind such icons in the Chrysler lineup as as the revamped Chrysler 300 in 2005. He was in charge of the Jeep Grand Cherokee restyling last year, so is very much in touch with the Jeep division under the Chrysler umbrella.

If anyone is in a position to tell Trump that he is wrong, it is Ralph Gilles.

Thanks to Mitt Romney’s claim that Jeep is moving to China, the executives at Chrysler have been putting out fires. These words by the Presidential candidate were not only wrong, but they were a direct attack at Chrysler. Without realizing it, Mitt Romney turned Chrysler into a political club, which now has to bludgeon him and his surrogates in order to defend themselves. Chrysler had been staying out of the political race, Romney had nothing to gain by his claim. Now they turned the worlds 11th largest automobile manufacturer on its ear.

Imagine what Chrysler, and their owners, Fiat, are dealing with. Now they have employees fearing for their jobs. They have shareholders upset at the claimed move. They have customers now holding off on purchase. Mitt Romney directly attacked Chrysler’s ability to operate. This is but the latest gaffe for the candidate, and is one of the worst gaffes that one could imagine. For the candidate who claims to be pro-business, this is a very anti-business move.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/11...**-on-twitter/
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Rhub - surely you realize by now that Glenn's posts need to be taken with an entire bag of salt? He rarely exposes the back of his tongue, he's such a tease.
Certainly though my thoughts weren't stated for him, but because of him.

I'm still waiting, however, for concrete examples of how US voters are being made to "choose between two radically different visions of what represents the strength of our country" mentioned in Obama's final campaign discorse.

Is it between Obamacare and Romney's voucher plan? Is it 2 billion less for the military vs. 2 billion more? Is it middle class finance bailouts vs. middle class finance bailouts and lower capital gains tax? Is it bomb Iran as a last option vs. bomb Iran as a last option while reassuring Israeli anxiety with bellicose rhetoric? Is it not reforming the IMF vs. maintaining undisturbed the IMF? Is it the recrudescence of filamentary market strategy vs. eternally myopic market policy? Help me out, I’m not seeing the “radically different visions.”

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Well the NRA is right about one thing, it's not guns that we should be worried about, it's guns in the hands of nutjobs.
According to the latest polls, the nutjobs are in the lead!
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Certainly though my thoughts weren't stated for him, but because of him.

I'm still waiting, however, for concrete examples of how US voters are being made to "choose between two radically different visions of what represents the strength of our country" mentioned in Obama's final campaign discorse.

Is it between Obamacare and Romney's voucher plan? Is it 2 billion less for the military vs. 2 billion more? Is it middle class finance bailouts vs. middle class finance bailouts and lower capital gains tax? Is it bomb Iran as a last option vs. bomb Iran as a last option while reassuring Israeli anxiety with bellicose rhetoric? Is it not reforming the IMF vs. maintaining undisturbed the IMF? Is it the recrudescence of filamentary market strategy vs. eternally myopic market policy? Help me out, I’m not seeing the “radically different visions.”
Clearly you have an outmoded understanding of the word radical (since no one has the time or interest--let alone political integrity--to address issues at the radix or root level). This is the technocratic application. Voters on the real issues that matter get it.

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On a slightly different note:

Yay it's hunting season, erm election season:

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_21...uarters-denver

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Police say someone fired a shot at an Obama campaign field office in Denver on Friday afternoon.

It certainly is..... (TRUNCATED TWIT-POSTS TO ALLOW FOR CHARACTER COUNT RESTRICTIONS)

http://twitchy.com/2012/11/02/as-ele...-riot-threats/
As Election Day nears, Obama supporters step up riot threats

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If Romney win , me obama and 2 chainz going to start a riot and shoot his *** !—
TriciaM'fcknShell (@TattooedPretty) November 02, 2012
Dimz @turn2two
If Obama lose it's going to be the biggest riot in history… Beacause, I'm going to start it!

K.dot @BanitaApplebumm 2 Nov 12
If Romney were to win, I feel like ppl are gonna riot the streets..

The Sage⚡ @ChuckRaging
yup, thas me. RT @BanitaApplebumm: If Romney were to win, I feel like ppl are gonna riot the streets..


JayBabyyyy @JayBae813
I Swear If Romney Win Imma Start A Motha****in Riot

@Perfectly_Badd_
If Romney win we should start a riot—
IG: @Perfectly_Badd_ (@Perfectly_Badd_) November 02, 2012

Ganja Nish.✌ @_SweetKiWi
If Mitt Romney wins, imma start a riot!

ricky spanish @DoobsxBoobs
if Romney wins this election i'm starting a riot

2 Nov 12oremen


If Obama don't win it's gone be a riot.


@VannaDoesItRite
I'ma start riot if Obama don't win—
Vanna Jamie James (@VannaDoesItRite) November 02, 2012

@RashadBF
If I drive all the way to the city to vote Tuesday & Obama doesn't win! Imma start a riot!

2 Nov 12


@ASAPLife_
Romney wins= L.A. Riot—
FREDO (@ASAPLife_) November 02, 2012

2 Nov 12



RIOT! Ima start a riot! * @2chainz voice* RT @RealShaddyLo: If Mitt Romney win idk what I'm gonna do

@BrittanyiCandy
If Romney wins the election, imma start a riot like Spike Lee in Do The Right Thing

@TLoft1_MTOE
Lets face it u vote for obama were ****ed u vote for mitt romney were super ****ed lets all riot.. #butseriously


Bri @_KissesFrmBrezy 2 Nov 12
I was given the heads up last night that it mayyyy be smart to stay in during Election Day because if Romney wins niggas might start a riot

Terell Kirby Romney win = RIOT

@Lo_Heffner
Or both “@RAYandNITE: If Romney win, its either going be a recount or a riot”

@Rachettastic
If mitt romney wins I'm starting a ****in riot—
Narcissistic. (@Rachettastic) November 02, 2012

london @London_monroee8
If Romney wins , Ima start a fuccn Riot .

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L I N @ChangeMy_Name
If Mitt Romney wins, nighas gon riot like when Dr. King died. It's gon be a sight to see.

Ben O. Verbich @_Swaggerless
If Romney wins, we riot.

Mr. Promo @AfterMoneyFlipp
If Romney wins, me & @2chainz startin a riot frfr

AWH TOO THE $$$. @*****EmAllNee
If Obama Dont Win , Imma Start A Bigg *** Riot
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According to the latest polls, the nutjobs are in the lead!
I hear you! But then when you read into the polls internals it is much more of a stretch to see the details supporting the final number. Hopefully we will know on Wednesday. Sometimes the polling organization has a bias, or maybe more accurately, the construction of the poll does, towards the nut jobs and miraculously their candidate comes out in the lead.

When I read into the Time Magazine Poll that had Obama up by 5 in Ohio (a few weeks ago, see link in RCP) it was like 'Wait a minute, it doesn't seem likely that these assumptions stand the empirical test of historical results?' Or even anything close to it. Go check it out for yourself.

At that time i gave up on any rcp aggregation of polls or any particular pollster in particular to provide any solace. Besides, we're pretty f%cked regardless of the winner. And the nut jobs on each side will be the death of us.
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I hear you! But then when you read into the polls internals it is much more of a stretch to see the details supporting the final number. Hopefully we will know on Wednesday. Sometimes the polling organization has a bias, or maybe more accurately, the construction of the poll does, towards the nut jobs and miraculously their candidate comes out in the lead.

When I read into the Time Magazine Poll that had Obama up by 5 in Ohio (a few weeks ago, see link in RCP) it was like 'Wait a minute, it doesn't seem likely that these assumptions stand the empirical test of historical results?' Or even anything close to it. Go check it out for yourself.

At that time i gave up on any rcp aggregation of polls or any particular pollster in particular to provide any solace. Besides, we're pretty f%cked regardless of the winner. And the nut jobs on each side will be the death of us.
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I haven't been following this thread...seems like you guys are getting into the numbers pretty good...no way does Romney win Michigan...ain't gonna happen...and if he does, he will win...but ain't going to happen...I am no Obama fan and as a Dem I think he has done a pretty lousy job, but my reading is Obama is gonna beat the Romneybot hands down...the media has done a great job exaggerating the closeness of this race...

That said, given the job the dems have done and the state of the economy...if the rethugs had offered ANY new ideas...come up with anything other than ultimately the olde tickledown bs they could have taken it easily...but they certainly won't...might gain a few congress seats...not many senate ones...and it will be 4 more years of the same BS...

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ACF - posting that I am "nice" to you will ruin my reputation for good.

On the whole, by and large, in most cases, etc - people tend to be somewhat more 'radical' when younger, and then tend to grow more 'conservative' as they make their way through life. It's a bit confusing for us older 'radicals' to be confronted by young(ish) 'conservatives', such as yourself. That's my take, anyway.
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Just calling it as I see it! I must admit, I get told what you just said many times. It is a tad odd for someone like me who is somewhat conservative at a young age considering most people at my age are either centre-left or 'far-left'. I'd imagine that I would stay the same!
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