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Old 11-04-12, 09:43
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Why was it discounted till now is the more important question.

These aren't new claims. L'illustre published transaction details on the fourth of July. Wonder what the cycling media were doing when this was published?
http://www.illustre.ch/Alexandre-Vin...v_162322_.html

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i don't think they were able to find anything at the time.

in the first article i sited, there's this (emphasis added is mine):
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The payoff revelations were first reported by Swiss magazine L'illustre.

"It's a very old story," UCI spokesman Enrico Carpani told The Associated Press, adding that the UCI asked L'illustre for evidence of the case two years ago but was turned down.
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Old 11-04-12, 09:57
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So, they published it now. It doesn't change that they've alleged that two transactions worth 150 grand have been made and that the Padova prosecutors believe it's proof.
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Old 11-04-12, 10:13
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So, they published it now. It doesn't change that they've alleged that two transactions worth 150 grand have been made and that the Padova prosecutors believe it's proof.
and the "evidence" is finally being passed on.

it took them two years to come up with it, so have a little patience and let the authorities look at the information that was given on a weekend when offices were closed.

honestly, the vitriol against Vino has reached a new level since Vino won the Olympics fair and square. deal with it
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Old 11-04-12, 10:17
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So much hatred in here.
Maybe that's because we don't like the idea of bike races being bought.

This puts the spotlight back on the Olympics.

Will you be happy to see cycling banned as an olympic sport?

Vino is a typical sport cheat: doesn't care about anything, any damage to the sport so long as he wins. Riders like him are a large part the reason cycling is in the state it is today.

BTW I did like his attacking style of cycling, but could never enjoy it, knowing what he'd get up to.
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Old 11-04-12, 10:19
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Is it july yet? gingerwallace gracing us with his presence.
Haha! Touché
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Old 11-04-12, 10:22
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I enjoyed his racing, but didn't support him. Not that I support many. It's not like he's the only cheat around. This is a different allegation.
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and the "evidence" is finally being passed on.

it took them two years to come up with it, so have a little patience and let the authorities look at the information that was given on a weekend when offices were closed.

honestly, the vitriol against Vino has reached a new level since Vino won the Olympics fair and square. deal with it
I'm dealing fine enough, not the one having a strop now It could be ignored and all will still be sunshine and roses, no?

Btw, the illustre article was published before the olympics.
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Old 11-04-12, 10:46
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Maybe that's because we don't like the idea of bike races being bought.

This puts the spotlight back on the Olympics.

Will you be happy to see cycling banned as an olympic sport?

Vino is a typical sport cheat: doesn't care about anything, any damage to the sport so long as he wins. Riders like him are a large part the reason cycling is in the state it is today.

BTW I did like his attacking style of cycling, but could never enjoy it, knowing what he'd get up to.
Honestly if cycling should be banned from the olympics, it should not be becasue someone payed someone for the victory instead of the second place. If that was the reason tennis would have been banned a long time ago rofl.
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and the "evidence" is finally being passed on.

it took them two years to come up with it, so have a little patience and let the authorities look at the information that was given on a weekend when offices were closed.

honestly, the vitriol against Vino has reached a new level since Vino won the Olympics fair and square. deal with it
Vino is as corrupt as the oil oligarchy of the nation that supports his baby Astana, in ex-Soviet style state propaganda. None of this is surprising, however, I'm wondering if the Italian PM will really be able to incriminate him, because of all the political and economic interests between Italy and Kazakhstan and their respective mafias. Although they have the evidence to do so and Astana, now with Nibali, seriously risks loosing its World Tour liscence. These orthodox/former Polit Bureau states have replaced such former oligarchies, with state sponsored oil mafias. Hence corruption is rife within the very DNA of the institutions, to where it becomes a hereditary culture of their society.

As reported in today's la Gazzetta dello Sport, the Roberti led Padova investigation has sworn testimony from Bertagnolli and Voldymir Bileka regarding Astana and Ferrari, movements from Swiss bank accounts and Monte Carlo (a triangulation between Ferrari's son and the two fiscal paradises, with fake contracts to boot); as well as e-mails and phone conversations between Kolbonev and Vino, which irrefutably demonstrate the veracity of the accusations.

To assert anything to the contrary is simply asinine.

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Old 11-04-12, 11:30
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To assert anything to the contrary is simply asinine.
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