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Old 11-01-12, 15:08
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9th Koppenberg win for Nys, lol. Can be as impressive as Liboton's 16 wins in Overijse. In this storm that was funny (for us, tv-viewers).

Whatever happened to Van der Haar? Was he injured? Sick?


Oh and great to see some foreigners on an ex-GvA cross. Finally a Swiss doing well. And Duval, Frenchy who cares to defy the Belgians at home. With no Stybar or Van der Haar, you could have thought this would be an all-Belgian affair.
VDH doesn't ride all races of this classification, he skips them until the second to last manche. Riding a full pro season might be a bit too much for a 21 year old, so he's taking his rest in between. He's also suffered minor injuries on his hip and hand in the Nacht van Woerden last week in the Netherlands, which caused him to ride below his normal level in Plzen.
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Old 11-02-12, 08:25
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Oh and great to see some foreigners on an ex-GvA cross. Finally a Swiss doing well. And Duval, Frenchy who cares to defy the Belgians at home. With no Stybar or Van der Haar, you could have thought this would be an all-Belgian affair.
Two dutch guys in the top 10, a good swiss guy again from a top pro team
and finally a french guy who doesn't slow down after a good start (like chainel) or after 3/4 race (Mouray last two seasons).
I think 4 non Flandrien riders, in the GvA which is the most Belgium-dominated normally!

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Sad end of the race. I don't like these team calculations. I don't think Vantornout wished to slow down and wait for Pauwels, but was ordered to do so (I think De Clercq was on the stairs, wasn't he?). Pauwels in the Fidea team would never race for the team or receive any help from the team except in the last leg of a challenge, so I guess I knew Klaas had the right to go for second.
True, but what would you do if you are the boss? Giving Vantornhout the change who did not seem to have a change for the win and wins just ones every year or help Pauwels for his ranking, who won the whole serie last year incl. World cup and a lot of races...

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VDH doesn't ride all races of this classification, he skips them until the second to last manche. Riding a full pro season might be a bit too much for a 21 year old, so he's taking his rest in between. He's also suffered minor injuries on his hip and hand in the Nacht van Woerden last week in the Netherlands, which caused him to ride below his normal level in Plzen.
Thanks for making it clear. I think van der Haar focusses on the World cup races and rides all those. I do no any plans about the Superprestige.

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Old 11-04-12, 13:11
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I haven't been following Cyclocross for a long time, so I suppose that's general knowledge anyway, but I have to say: wow, what a spectacular course is this in Zonhoven? That's got to be a blast to ride.

eta: very exciting right up to the finish line too, great race!

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Old 11-04-12, 14:18
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Yes Zonhoven is known as a hard and spectacular course, and on sand, with the up-and-donw on the former rubbish dump. And the rest of the setting is very beautiful.

Great mano a mano in front.
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Old 11-04-12, 14:21
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VDH doesn't ride all races of this classification, he skips them until the second to last manche. Riding a full pro season might be a bit too much for a 21 year old, so he's taking his rest in between. He's also suffered minor injuries on his hip and hand in the Nacht van Woerden last week in the Netherlands, which caused him to ride below his normal level in Plzen.

Thanks too for making it clear.


Today, he yet again showed his youth hotheadedness. And he even admits it in the itw. When he came back, he knew he would blow up. His interviews are still very funny.
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Old 11-04-12, 14:32
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Two dutch guys in the top 10, a good swiss guy again from a top pro team
Taramarcaz made another great ride today. He's a mtb specialist too, so I think those courses are tailor-made for him. In Hamme-Zogge that will be something else.

It's normal to have Dutchies in the top10, though. They've never left cross, unlike some might think.


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True, but what would you do if you are the boss? Giving Vantornhout the change who did not seem to have a change for the win and wins just ones every year or help Pauwels for his ranking, who won the whole serie last year incl. World cup and a lot of races...
Well I insist on the fact that when Fidea had a mighty team, none of their riders would ever race for one another, except perhaps in the final leg of a given challenge when team mates had nothing left to gain or lose. Pauwels raced for Fidea. And he would mix it up with teammate Stybar in the sprint without any of the two making a present to the other one, and the boss did not have a say either. I remember that very well.

Just imagine KP has to retire from one race, the ranking is over for him and the hopes of the team would be on Klaas's shoulders. It was just the second leg.
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Old 11-04-12, 14:49
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Thanks too for making it clear.


Today, he yet again showed his youth hotheadedness. And he even admits it in the itw. When he came back, he knew he would blow up. His interviews are still very funny.
His interviews are funny? He's the only one of these guys who actually says something, it's refreshing.

He's obviously just riding to get stronger, not bothering too much about results. And I like it.

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Taramarcaz made another great ride today. He's a mtb specialist too, so I think those courses are tailor-made for him. In Hamme-Zogge that will be something else.

It's normal to have Dutchies in the top10, though. They've never left cross, unlike some might think.
No, they haven't. But Holland isn't a cross nation anymore.
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Old 11-04-12, 15:12
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Is it offensive to be funny?

I'm a fan of his because of that. After his first World title, he said road cycling was boring (saai). That was funny as well.

Here when Mannaerts asks him if he knew whether he would blow up when he joined the two leaders, he unambiguously said 'Ja'. (if I understood well because Dutch is not my mother tongue) Sorry but I had to smile ...

Also when he described his cramps, I had a little smile (even though he must have suffered)

He's young and frank and that's refreshing. And funny.
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Old 11-04-12, 15:29
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Ah, you mean he's funny in the interviews. Subtle difference

Of course in a world of Kevin Pauwelses and Lars Booms it's easy to be the slightly more interesting (and less dumb) interviewee.
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Old 11-04-12, 16:29
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They all have their own personality, which we have to respect.

The most important for me is that they remain themselves when on camera.

I'm sure that Van der Haar is as carefree off camera than he is on camera.

Pauwels is as shy on and off too. The guy suffered from a slight form of autism when he was young.


But I know a lot of riders who look nice on camera but are true j*rks off camera.
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