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Old 11-02-12, 15:51
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Where is Manfredi riding next year? I haven't been able to figure out his team. Also, Shalounov, the Russian on Lokosphinx should have made the jump this year. He won a race this year and was a trainee for RSNT in 2011. He's better than Arndt or Seldig, or any other of Katusha's youngsters.
Shalunov did a few impressive rides in Spain, although calling him the biggest talent in Russia might be too much.
He didn't finish the Volta Portugal and Giro Padania, , it is possible that he's got an injury or illness.
Wouter Wippert is a good example of a rider with good results while riding as a trainee for Lotto, but whose pro ambitions were brought to an end by a broken kneecap. Next year he'll ride for 3M(continental level), despite that his U23 WC result was impressive considering the amount of work he did. He also beat Guarnieri in the GP Zottegem for 3rd spot.
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Old 11-02-12, 17:02
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Lutsenko, no doubt :=)
same here..............
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same here..............
Hopefully he can improve in the hills, so we can get another Vino
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Old 11-02-12, 23:10
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I think Lutsenko could be like Sagan at least for the moment.

Also @Gustienordic: Haller???
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Old 11-04-12, 19:29
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Lutsenko has shown some pretty good potential + guts. I might be biased toward riders born in 1992 though, it was a good year to be born in (plus theres some good riders from that year)
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Wouter Wippert is a good example of a rider with good results while riding as a trainee for Lotto, but whose pro ambitions were brought to an end by a broken kneecap. Next year he'll ride for 3M(continental level), despite that his U23 WC result was impressive considering the amount of work he did. He also beat Guarnieri in the GP Zottegem for 3rd spot.
Oh! Wippert isn't turning pro with Lotto next year? I didn't know this.
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Old 11-04-12, 20:12
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Oh! Wippert isn't turning pro with Lotto next year? I didn't know this.
It's a shame, but if his knee recovers well he's definitely one to watch, even though he can only enter smaller races. But maybe Tour of Belgium or ZLM toer?

Btw the Lutsenko hypers shouldn't be too surprised if when he's having trouble in harder races. He can do well in shorter distances, but he still lacks endurance atm. Avenir showed he's about five times better when stages are only 40 km in length, although I can't predict his progression this winter ofc.
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Here's a nice list compiled on cycling4fans :

http://www.cycling4fans.de/index.php?id=5771
It's interesting to look back on some of their past lists (going back to 2004). Sometimes the top ten is a who's who of future stars, and occasionally it's a list of people we never heard of again.

http://www.cycling4fans.de/index.php?id=3036
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It's interesting to look back on some of their past lists (going back to 2004). Sometimes the top ten is a who's who of future stars, and occasionally it's a list of people we never heard of again.

http://www.cycling4fans.de/index.php?id=3036
Check the 2006 list that Gloin told us was a weak generation
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Check the 2006 list that Gloin told us was a weak generation
You're right, 2006 pretty much looks like the strongest generation. I recognise almost every rider on the list and most of the guys in top 15 are fairly big names now. Grabovsky is more or less the only guy in the top 25 who's not a reasonably successful rider in the pro peloton...
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