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Old 11-05-12, 06:51
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Ill do a prediction map Obama to win electoral college and presidency 281 257

Nationally independents to break to Romney and give him a national 49-48.5% win.





Ohio- Obama 1.3% - declared in the morning. Obama projected on exit polls and leads through the night and holds it out.

Pennsylvania - Obama 3%

Wisconsin - Obama 2 %

Iowa - Obama 0.9%- Called late as everyone is going ape **** over Ohio.

New Hampshire - Obama -1% - Called late

Michigan - Obama 5% - Declared on exit polls

Minnesota - Obama 4%- Declared on exit polls

Nevada - Obama 3%- Declared early due to well known EV advantage.


Florida - Romney 4% - declared early as numbers from central counties and panhandle come in.

Virginia - Romney 1.5% (Romney to build up huge lead through election night and lose most of it as final 10% precincts come in from Northern Virginia)

North Carolina - Romney 6% - declared early.


Colorado - declared either way (but meaningless) days later after a recount.

For the sake of the picture - Romney 0.2%

Playing it very safe and going with the polls and a Bush Kerry incumbency model. This election has far more uncertainty to it though.
I have been reading some polls this morning which are suggesting that Virginia and even Florida are in doubt for Romney. If he doesn't win those two, he really has no chance.

When do the polls close in America? Secondly, when does the counting start? Just wondering as I would like to watch the coverage of the counting but also plan other things I have to do around that coverage.
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Old 11-05-12, 07:36
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I think the dog in this video may summarise many thoughts of our fellow Americans in here.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltCIE...layer_embedded - Very funny
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I have been reading some polls this morning which are suggesting that Virginia and even Florida are in doubt for Romney. If he doesn't win those two, he really has no chance.

When do the polls close in America? Secondly, when does the counting start? Just wondering as I would like to watch the coverage of the counting but also plan other things I have to do around that coverage.
ABC news 24 has live coverage from 10.30am on Wednesday.So, you can watch it on Australian TV, if you can handle the "liberal media" that is!
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ABC news 24 has live coverage from 10.30am on Wednesday.So, you can watch it on Australian TV, if you can handle the "liberal media" that is!
I am glad you said that with a lower 'l' case. In saying that, does the actual counting start @ 10:30am AEDT???
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...quick look at who is likely to vote for whom...

"Not even close. Here is your brutal nutshell takeaway: If only women voted, Obama wins in a landslide. If only men voted, Romney wins in a landslide. (Taken further: if only Latinos, blacks, celebrities, college grads, professors, scientists, poets, Burning Man attendees, book readers, trees, oceans, major cities or college towns of America voted, Obama nails it wholly and true. If only rich CEOs, gun owners, upper managers, oil companies, rednecks, shut-ins and guys who think Muslims are terrorists, Mexicans are lazy house painters and feminazis are ruining porn voted, Romney is a mutant and faraway god).

All of which leads to the most depressing conclusion of all: older white males remain the most terrified, lopsided, confused demographic in all of America, perhaps even more acutely and more embarrassingly in this election than any other in modern history."

...from... http://blog.sfgate.com/morford/2012/...rightened-men/

...and then there are those pathetic souls who still think the Smirking Chimp is the cat's meow...

...and here is the score from Soviet Canuckistan...from a site that usually leans to the Canadian version of wrong wing...

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If you were able to vote in the U.S. election, who would you vote for?

Barack Obama
77%
Mitt Romney
13%
Other
2%
None of the above
8%

18116 responses, not scientifically valid, results updated every minute.

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In my opinion you need to worry about Canada more - example: giving something else away to Quebec.

Try not to let Quebec have Labrador would be a great start.

Funny how Quebec always gets over on the country of Canada. Churchill falls for example. I guess in 2041 the folks of NL can get some payback.
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Independents starting to shift to Obama? The latest polls seem to suggest it.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/20..._to_obama.html

btw, why in god's name does anyone listen to Jim Cramer's stock predictions?

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/polit...-insane/58673/

Obama 440-98? wtf?

EDIT: weirder and weirder. Now the PPP has NC even. Could be an outlier, but with all the talk of FL and OH and CO etc I had no idea NC was even remotely close.

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Old 11-05-12, 16:17
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Fox News, fair and balanced.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/11...-romney/191118

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On Saturday, Fox News kicked off its coverage with Romney's campaign rally in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, at 9 a.m. and cut away when he ended his remarks about 14 minutes later. It later aired his campaign speech in Dubuque, Iowa, for five minutes starting at 1:33 p.m. Meanwhile, Fox News did not air Obama's first speech of the day in Mentor, Ohio, around noon, and only gave his rally in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, a passing mention at 4:31 p.m. In fact, Fox aired Obama's remarks for just 13 seconds before cutting away.

MSNBC covered Romney's speech in Dubuque for four minutes, and aired five minutes of Obama's comments in Mentor and two minutes of his Milwaukee remarks. CNN aired four minutes of Romney's Portsmouth comments and a minute of his speech in Dubuque. It also aired three minutes of Obama's remarks in Mentor and six minutes of his speech in Milwaukee.

Fox News' Friday coverage was almost as lopsided: Romney received 37 minutes of coverage for his campaign speeches, while Obama was afforded just 12 minutes.

Indeed, Fox aired Romney's entire 26-minute speech in West Allis, Wisconsin, live on Friday, but aired only three minutes of Obama's speech in Hilliard, Ohio.

Thursday's Fox coverage also followed this unbalanced trend: The network aired an entire 24-minute Romney speech live in Roanoke, Virginia, but cut away from Obama's remarks in Green Bay, Wisconsin, after just six minutes. Fox later aired five minutes of Romney's remarks in Doswell, Virginia, but did not cover any other Obama campaign stops.
Hopefully Fox has gone so far overboard with their bias toward Romney that people will stop pretending that they are anything other than a propaganda agency for the Republican party.

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http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/11...-romney/191118



Hopefully Fox has gone so far overboard with their bias toward Romney that people will stop pretending that they are anything other than a propaganda agency for the Republican party.
Pew research did some research into US media bias this election and concluded msnbc was worse.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/...ox-148088.html

Not that lentghy research from an unaffiliated polling company can possibly compare to a days worth of chanel surfing from a pro obama organization

And the media was generally found to be slightly more favorable to Obama.

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...actually what we have to worry about is the American-wannabe that unfortunately is running this country for the time being...his dream is to reduce this country to a northern version of the disaster your country has become...thankfully Quebec, which has on occasion been a real pain in the *** at times is leading the charge to stand that idiot up...so many of us are happy that Quebec and their Gallic ways are still part of the team ( and frankly given how they were treated thru much of their history its not surprising they didn't leave...)...though Quebec leaving, would, if in the unlikey possibilty that it did finally happen, be a bit of a messy business, since the First Nations have a claim to the top 2/3 of the province and they are not too likely to leave Canada....

...as for Churchill Falls...what can I say, Joey Smallwood who was a really nice guy but proved to be a wimp at the negotiation table, and he really messed up, and Quebec played hardball...that, I guess, happens at lot when you play in the big leagues,oh well.....that being said, that screwing over doesn't compare with the total screwing over that those free market champions Alberta subjected themselves to in any and all dealing they have had with the energy industry over the years...

...and speaking of Alberta, frankly, if there was anyone that should be thrown overboard to keep the balloon afloat, it would be Alberta ( and we would really like them to take Harper with them when they go.. )...like have you ever been to Calgary, the ideological centre of that province, its awful, in fact its almost as awful as Houston...

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I have visited Calgary. It was during the summer and I got the feeling that people like to play golf and go to rodeo.

Houston is nothing to look at but the price of living is reasonable. The State of Texas has no State Income tax and there sales tax is lower than your HST. Not that I am defending Houston or nothing but I did like the price I paid for housing / vehicles / gasoline / food / LIST GOES ON AND ON.

Churchill falls will have a part 2 correct? Then they will pay to have transmission over to Halifax and down into the USA correct? I rekon that will work out about like Sable Islands Gas fields ......send that down to the USA correct? I'm not sure how much gas stays in Canada never looked it up.

The american-wannabe is Harper? I don't know much about him but I will take your word on it.
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Pew research did some research into US media bias this election and concluded msnbc was worse.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/...ox-148088.html

Not that lentghy research from an unaffiliated polling company can possibly compare to a days worth of chanel surfing from a pro obama organization

And the media was generally found to be slightly more favorable to Obama.

All MM has done here is add up the number of minutes the three main cable news outlets have given to campaign speech coverage over the past three days. It isn't rocket science. Grab a hand timer and you can go back and do the same if you want.

Let's sum it up:

CNN:
Obama: 66 mins
Romney: 53 mins

MSNBC:
Obama: 79
Romney: 44

Fox News:
Obama: 27
Romney: 168

Think it pretty much speaks for itself.
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