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Old 11-05-12, 20:59
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I'm not sure the presidential election will effect Canada...
But Romney speaks French. That socialist language. While Obama's second language is Indonesian (or Bahasa).
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Old 11-05-12, 21:03
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But Romney speaks French. That socialist language. While Obama's second language is Indonesian (or Bahasa).
I didn't post that, Alpe. That was Glenn.
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Old 11-05-12, 21:06
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And you can take a look at the Politico (impartial site) article i linked about the Pew Research (impartial organization which btw has Obama up higher than most) research which contains far more depth than switching accross networks with a stopwatch.

Both are as bad as eachother, so i dont get why yall moan all the time about fox.

As if the media siding with a political party is some totally new concept without any historical prescedent.
Apples and oranges - the Pew study included the commentary/opinion/personality programming, like Maddow, Matthews et al for MSNBC and O'Reilly, Hannity etc for Fox, which are openly partisan. The MM chart was only on coverage during the (supposed) news programming, ie excluding the opinion programs.

When MSNBC provides 370% more coverage to Obama's campaign speeches than it does to Romney's, then there might be a fair comparison. Or, for that matter, when MSNBC changes it's slogan to "Fair and Balanced"
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Old 11-05-12, 22:33
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Fox News, fair and balanced.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/11...-romney/191118



Hopefully Fox has gone so far overboard with their bias toward Romney that people will stop pretending that they are anything other than a propaganda agency for the Republican party.
I rarely read you or many other people ever commenting on any of the pro-Democrat media outlets. Why is that?
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Old 11-05-12, 22:36
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I live in NC in a very Republican county. 4 of our nearby neighbors have had Romney/Ryan yard signs for the last month or so, but last night 2 houses took them down. No idea why - just thought it was curious.

Also, with NC - I believe the older folks may be be going Dem more than normal. We've had a bunch of AARP direct mailings about the R/R plan killing medicare - and I heard one old guy say "this is not the Republican party I grew up with." Again, just anecdotal. Will be interesting to see what the actual totals are.

Early (Onestop) voting was very high. Stats here broken down by party & demographics.
NC is definitely moving into the purple category in the short-mid term, given the changes in demographics. The triangle area is changing a lot and minorities are increasing their numbers.

The EV stats are not as good for Ds this year as compared to 2008 (down 2-3%, while Rs up 2-3%; Is up 2%). However, there were almost 90K more EV compared to 2008, so on balance Ds are down only some 30K compared to 2008 and Rs up 60K (net gain of 90K or so for R), compared to 2008. On balance, Ds are still around 100K ahead in EV and enthusiasm doesn't really seem down on D side.

The thing is, are those additional R EVs people who were already voting on election day? If so, they might have just shifted from election day to EV and they will still need a strong turnout. Is Romney appealing enough for them?

I would guess R enthusiasm is up, so they will still put out a good number of people tomorrow. In 2008, they didn't manage to close the EV advantage all the way down and Ds won by a mere 14K. I think, even though AA turnout is higher and minorities have added to the voter rolls, that is too little of a margin.

The other thing is, redistricting forced a lot of blue dogs into more conservative districts, and they are hopelessly behind, or didn't even run, so total newcomers took their spots. Non competitive House races, a, what I have heard relatively popular choice for Governor (R), and a tainted D party, including an unpopular D Gov make it lean R even more.

It has potential to become a more competitive state in the future, if Rs continue to run their extremely unappealing platform for minorities and AAs, but this year, I think it's not going to happen, unless Rs decide not to show up on election day.
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Old 11-05-12, 22:40
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I rarely read you or many other people ever commenting on any of the pro-Democrat media outlets. Why is that?
Have you been doing some research to fit in with the US GOP?
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Old 11-05-12, 22:52
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Have you been doing some research to fit in with the US GOP?
No, but I thought I wouldn't just go along with the heavily anti-GOP crowd on here nor would I pander to the Democrats. It seems odd that so many of you here seem to have the attitude of 'a pox on both your houses' when it comes to the major parties yet many of you so readily defend Obama and criticise Romney along with Fox. If you are trying to put out a non-partisan image, then perhaps actually being balanced on the media that is biased towards the Democrats and that maybe good for you. I think you will still refrain from doing that because the more left leaning media outlets are closer to your ideology therefore you see them as 'balanced'. Might I add, I am not pro-GOP or pro-Democrat but I am amazed to read many of your reactions when I or someone else posts something remotely negative about the Democrats or something remotely positive about the Republicans and how defensive you become. That is some food for thought for you to chew on.
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Old 11-05-12, 23:00
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No, but I thought I wouldn't just go along with the heavily anti-GOP crowd on here nor would I pander to the Democrats. It seems odd that so many of you here seem to have the attitude of 'a pox on both your houses' when it comes to the major parties yet many of you so readily defend Obama and criticise Romney along with Fox. If you are trying to put out a non-partisan image, then perhaps actually being balanced on the media that is biased towards the Democrats and that maybe good for you. I think you will still refrain from doing that because the more left leaning media outlets are closer to your ideology therefore you see them as 'balanced'. Might I add, I am not pro-GOP or pro-Democrat but I am amazed to read many of your reactions when I or someone else posts something remotely negative about the Democrats or something remotely positive about the Republicans and how defensive you become. That is some food for thought for you to chew on.
Clearly you didn't get the joke. That's cool.

Also (it's rather unclear, but if you were addressing me). I don't accept food from a stranger.

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ACF, the sad fact of the matter is that neither I, nor any of the people I regularly communicate with, nor indeed most of the posters here, can find anything remotely rational or redeeming in the GOP platform. As you are probably aware, old-school Reagan era conservatives (with whom you might identify) have pretty much been sidelined within the so-called GOP's (there's an oxymoron for you!) centers of power as the party has been hijacked by....I'm sorry, there really are no more fitting terms than....nutters, whackjobs, wing-nuts, extreme right-wing loonies, etc and so on.

A standard, run of the mill 'modern' European or Australian conservative would be much more at home amongst the Dems than amongst the current harvest of what I, with good reason, refer to as Republitards.

(P.S. Bala, we now have Rutte II in power.)
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Old 11-05-12, 23:08
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ACF, the sad fact of the matter is that neither I, nor any of the people I regularly communicate with, nor indeed most of the posters here, can find anything remotely rational or redeeming in the GOP platform. As you are probably aware, old-school Reagan era conservatives (with whom you might identify) have pretty much been sidelined within the so-called GOP's (there's an oxymoron for you!) centers of powers as the party has been hijacked by....I'm sorry, there really are no more fitting terms than....nutters, whackjobs, wing-nuts, extreme right-wing loonies, etc and so on.

A standard, run of the mill 'modern' European or Australian conservative would be much more at home amongst the Dems than amongst the current harvest of what I, with good reason, refer to as Republitards.

(P.S. Bala, we now have Rutte II in power.)
Yeah I saw, is there a link (perhaps in the General Politics thread) to a who's who of the new cabinet? I heard the VVD had to eat some crow on the zorgpremie... wioth Faux outrage from de Telegraafmaar.

Anyway, let's continue this on the GP thread.
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