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The only reason I can see sexual preference being discussed is to somehow to discredit the entire thread.

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He did test positive. For nandrolone (steroids). His national fed let him off with a lame excuse that I don't recall. I think it was something to do with the time between when the A and B samples were tested.
quite possibly he didn't dope seriously until the nandrolon thing and was an "accident"(nandrolon is bull**** product anyway) that made him too afraid to really dope afterwards and or work with ferrari. what I remember of joachim is his hatred for bruyneel and him saying one time: "bruyneels greatest assett is that he's a great liar." he was 100% spot on, on that one.

also he's full of **** when he says he was as good as hamilton when he started. one look at results prooves otherwise. unless I forgot a 12th place in the tour by joachim.

still in early usps tour years only the climbers got dope. so joachim might be right there as I think he only did the tour in the earlier years few times.

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I guess that depends if you can dope without any harm to your long term health
well guys like gianetti, ugrumov and riis are still alive and healthy, so I wouldn't worrie about that and I doubt any rider ever worried about that
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I understand he's reasoning, and I don't have a moral issue. But he's arguments are too weak not to have doped, and he seems to be the guy who loves money. Thus what he says doesn't make sense based on what he is. Translation he was a donkey and he didn't improve enough with doping like the others, and Ferrari probably didn't bother having him on a program. And now he's trying to look like a victim of the system by saying he should've doped.
again you are missing the point completely. him being in love with money is a good reaosn for not doping as it cost him money to be with ferrari
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well guys like gianetti, ugrumov and riis are still alive and healthy, so I wouldn't worrie about that and I doubt any rider ever worried about that
These guys are just now hitting or approaching their 50s. It's way too early to tell.
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well guys like gianetti, ugrumov and riis are still alive and healthy, so I wouldn't worrie about that and I doubt any rider ever worried about that
Dunno. How many of the EPO-fueled riders have had knee surgery? Quite a few, IIRC.
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Dunno. How many of the EPO-fueled riders have had knee surgery? Quite a few, IIRC.
I had knee surgery. How come I missed out on the EPO connection?

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Dunno. How many of the EPO-fueled riders have had knee surgery? Quite a few, IIRC.
and how many non epo users have had knee surgery? even more
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