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Old 11-12-12, 22:49
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I am going to err on side of caution and not ride it but it is odd Reynolds thinks that when not only here, but on other frame building forums ect plenty of folks with experience say that 853 really can't be tigged and is an accident waiting to happen...
This is a tricky question.

#1: I doubt a frame builder wants to assume the liability even if the shop is an experienced Reynolds shop.

#2 Even if the shop welds to Reynold's spec setup. the cost of blowing the joint is high. Now, I'm sure I've offended a dozen welders out there, but they know non-pretty welds happen.

#3 If the welder is just any old welder, I'm sure they could blow it pretty easily given how special the material is. That's where some of the "no way" opinions are coming from.

I'd do it and leave it on the trainer. But, like another post said, there's no way it's "set and forget" road worthy.
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Old 11-13-12, 19:33
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This is a tricky question.

#1: I doubt a frame builder wants to assume the liability even if the shop is an experienced Reynolds shop.

#2 Even if the shop welds to Reynold's spec setup. the cost of blowing the joint is high. Now, I'm sure I've offended a dozen welders out there, but they know non-pretty welds happen.

#3 If the welder is just any old welder, I'm sure they could blow it pretty easily given how special the material is. That's where some of the "no way" opinions are coming from.

I'd do it and leave it on the trainer. But, like another post said, there's no way it's "set and forget" road worthy.
That's exactly what I did...a friend of mine is a welder who does plane stuff...he is no bike guy but works on all sorts of stuff up to FAA spec ect...and he has handled 853 alot...figured why not as it was an easy fix and only cost the beer...he had the proper rod filler as well (m80 if anyone is still following) so it was easy enough and no hassle...so it has a nice scar and I threw some semi similar paint on that and parked it on the trainer...at least this way I have a permanent trainer setup and get to ride a bike I still like and am partial to...turned out better than I thought considering the intro...

nice to see tho the thread was able to get the old steel vs carbon debate going again... there's never enough of that ...not sure why the carbon guys all get so touchy about the "superiority" of their frames...must have something to do with a certain digit's size, or lack of ect...
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Stay on topic. Further off topic posts will entail a suspension.

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