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Old 11-14-12, 12:13
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Stephens has worked with Australian athletes through four Olympic cycles and is currently head coach and programme manager at the Australian Institute of Sport and Triathlon Australia. He is considered one of the top triathlon coaches in the world and was head coach for the Australian team at the 2012 London Olympics.
Shaun is replacing Bobby Julich.

And the irony: August, 2012 Shaun being interviewed wrt Aussie coaches being poached by other countries. Pretty wishy washy interview though. :-/

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/...ephens/4181710
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Australia is now back in the top 20 on the medal tally, but still a long way down on pre-games expectations. Swimming Australia has already announced a review of the team's performance and many are questioning how to stop the brain drain of Australian coaches to overseas teams across all sports.
Shaun was Australia's head triathlon coach.

Sky just need a running coach and they should be set.
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So do we know of any links that Stephens has to the clinic? Or is it a case of professional cycling team hires experienced sports coach?
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So do we know of any links that Stephens has to the clinic? Or is it a case of professional cycling team hires experienced sports coach?
No - feel free to move the thread elsewhere if it's misplaced here.
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No - feel free to move the thread elsewhere if it's misplaced here.
I have no idea about him that's why I am asking. Clinic threads do tend to imply a certain angle on a topic.
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I have no idea about him that's why I am asking. Clinic threads do tend to imply a certain angle on a topic.
It's the epilogue to the Team Sky ZTP exodus (specifically Bobby J), that's the main link. When I saw the interview discussing coach drain from Australia, the irony light went on.
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it's clever by sky.
draw staff from endurance disciplines where PED-testing has been relatively lax.
sky has the means to attract the creme de la creme of coaches untainted by PED-rumors.
no doubt this guy knows how to 'produce' winners.
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it's clever by sky.
draw staff from endurance disciplines where PED-testing has been relatively lax.
sky has the means to attract the creme de la creme of coaches untainted by PED-rumors.
no doubt this guy knows how to 'produce' winners.
i would be interested to see if there was any coach that they could have brought in that would not draw the same response (i.e. the 'produce' part) from you?
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i would be interested to see if there was any coach that they could have brought in that would not draw the same response (i.e. the 'produce' part) from you?
As all sport is dirty the answer would be no. However, Sniper's point is that unlike picking a coach from say Track and Field, you pick a sport which has less/no testing, then there are not going to be any scandals waiting to come out - as they have done with Yates, Julich, Barry, etc

It goes back to the Prentice Steffen email about perception equalling reality. If you pick a coach who is perceived to be clean because there are no scandals then it creates the 'reality' of a clean team.

The aim is not to avoid doping but to avoid scandals.
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As all sport is dirty the answer would be no. However, Sniper's point is that unlike picking a coach from say Track and Field, you pick a sport which has less/no testing, then there are not going to be any scandals waiting to come out - as they have done with Yates, Julich, Barry, etc

It goes back to the Prentice Steffen email about perception equalling reality. If you pick a coach who is perceived to be clean because there are no scandals then it creates the 'reality' of a clean team.

The aim is not to avoid doping but to avoid scandals.
But then that argument can easily be spun the other way. If you go with the logic that Sky has a doping programme in place the obvious thing would be to get a clean guy in. That way you don't even have to pretend. Behind the scenes everything continues as before.
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As all sport is dirty the answer would be no. However, Sniper's point is that unlike picking a coach from say Track and Field, you pick a sport which has less/no testing, then there are not going to be any scandals waiting to come out - as they have done with Yates, Julich, Barry, etc

It goes back to the Prentice Steffen email about perception equalling reality. If you pick a coach who is perceived to be clean because there are no scandals then it creates the 'reality' of a clean team.

The aim is not to avoid doping but to avoid scandals.
thanks and indeed.

all prosport is indeed dirty, especially at the top. there can not and need not be any doubt about that.
Illegal performance enhancing means are inherent to any professional business, not just sports. Hell, even most charity business is dirty, just as the amateur sport level is nowadays swamped by PEDs.
Don't be late pedro would be wise to take these assumptions as a starting point, in order to enhance his thought process.
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