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Old 11-15-12, 01:05
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It's funny to see all these comments when everyone posting on this thread doesn't know anything about Shaun Stevens... which was probably the reason why Sky hired him.
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Old 11-15-12, 03:38
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Could you elaborate?
sure, be glad to. Just after I finish my swimbike rum
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1. Innovations in training
2. Weight loss
3. Reconnaissance of the course
4. Training as a team
5. Altitude camps
6. Peaking all season
7. Using a swim coach
8. Other teams “not innovating”
9. Hard work, dedication
10. Other people have never worked towards something in their lives like we have.
measuring, weighing, wanting
wanting, weighing, measuring your food.

plus the dope, the cleanbuterol in the spanish boef

they still have improvement left in them. Was not Lance using a rowing coach for triathlon?

great lateral thinking. Lets add more coaches.
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Old 11-15-12, 05:37
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...Sniper's point is that unlike picking a coach from say Track and Field, you pick a sport which has less/no testing, then there are not going to be any scandals waiting to come out - as they have done with Yates, Julich, Barry, etc

It goes back to the Prentice Steffen email about perception equalling reality. If you pick a coach who is perceived to be clean because there are no scandals then it creates the 'reality' of a clean team.

The aim is not to avoid doping but to avoid scandals.
Simple. If they want a sport with no testing, coaches perceived as clean, they should pick a tennis coach

Toni Nadal
Marián Vajda
Patrick Mouratouglou

are all excellent possibilities.
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Old 11-15-12, 08:35
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just saying there are no real dodgy data points to be found on Shaun.
There is no doubt in my mind that this guy endulges whatever program he's confronted with as soon as his job at Sky starts. However, at first sight, it doesn't seem as if this guy was brought on board to significantly improve said program. He's replacing Yates, not Leinders.
Shaun is NOT replacing Yates - He is replacing Bobby Julich as a performance coach. He is not a Director Sportif.

He will work alongside Tim Kerrison, Head of Performance.
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Old 11-15-12, 08:37
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Maybe not surprising as this thread is in the Clinic that everyone is focusing on doping. But I do wonder if his lack of experience in pro-bike racing will be a disadvantage? It helps if riders have confidence in their DS; they are not likely to win you races, but they can avoid losing one.
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Old 11-15-12, 09:51
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For Sky to hire him, he clearly has to be a doping coach.

For Sky to hire such an obvious doping coach is just further proof that Sky are doping.

Join the dots!
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Old 11-15-12, 11:32
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Simple. If they want a sport with no testing, coaches perceived as clean, they should pick a tennis coach

Toni Nadal
Marián Vajda
Patrick Mouratouglou

are all excellent possibilities.
I hear Tennis Val have an excellent coach by the name of Luis del Moral.
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Old 11-15-12, 12:39
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For Sky to hire him, he clearly has to be a doping coach.

For Sky to hire such an obvious doping coach is just further proof that Sky are doping.

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Your not making sense. Two separate statments without proof of anything other than that Sky has hired a new coach. YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY BIASED!
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For Sky to hire him, he clearly has to be a doping coach.

For Sky to hire such an obvious doping coach is just further proof that Sky are doping.

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Your not making sense. Two separate statments without proof of anything other than that Sky has hired a new coach. YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY BIASED!
I think you just might have missed the heavy sarcasm bomb, there.
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I think you just might have missed the heavy sarcasm bomb, there.
I thought the same at first, then realised he's probably simply extending said bomb's perceived impact with an equally sarcastic response.
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