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View Poll Results: Who will win the 2013 Tour
Alberto Contador 61 63.54%
Cristopher Froome 25 26.04%
Andy Schleck 6 6.25%
Vincenzo Nibali 2 2.08%
Cadel Evans / Teehay Van Garderen 2 2.08%
Ryder Hesjedal 1 1.04%
Alejandro Valverde / Juan Jose Cobo 1 1.04%
Other (specify) 1 1.04%
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Old 11-14-12, 02:52
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couldn't agree more. remind me of early years of kreuziger, perhaps even worse is nibali's hype.
At least Nibali has lived up to his hype a lot more than Kreuziger has. I think Nibali has and is living up to his hype very well.
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Well, I just hope he can get at least one decent shot at the Tour podium before the end of his career, something he hasn't been able to do since 2008. And now with a full season of racing in his legs I believe he can.

Btw which British riders were in the podium of this year's Tour and the 2011 Vuelta? And if Vuelta performances don't have many parallels with the Tour I'm wondering why Froome isn't first in this poll, with the Vuelta being probably his last GT before next year's Tour? Cobo's just a bad reference, Valverde has proven to be a much more consistent top 10 rider in GT, podiuming in 2 out of his last 3 GT's.
I was talking about winners of the Tour also winning the Vuelta. Contador only. Vuelta winners like Menchov, Nibali, Heras, Vinokourov, Valverde, Cobo have not been close to winning the Tour. But I take your point. Podium riders in the Vuelta like Evans have also won the Tour and Wiggins who I think finished fourth in the Vuelta ? I am just noting the history of both races in recent times. I still think Froome has some chance in next year's Tour but less chance for Valverde. Valverde has been very consistent of course as has Evans except for 2009 and 2010.
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Evans was not consistent in 09 but he still did 2 good rides at the Vuelta and WC. In 2010 he would have had a good season but got sick at the Giro/ crashed at the TDF.
Wiggins finished 3rd last year.
Vino came close to winning the TDF in 03 as well.
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Evans was not consistent in 09 but he still did 2 good rides at the Vuelta and WC. In 2010 he would have had a good season but got sick at the Giro/ crashed at the TDF.
Wiggins finished 3rd last year.
Vino came close to winning the TDF in 03 as well.
To me Evans was unlucky getting sick at the Giro because he was looking really good, really strong but Basso was very good too. Even though he was in yellow at the Tour I had my doubts even if he had not hurt his elbow. I think fatigue would have beaten him but he was riding well until he crashed and Schleck's and Contador's climbing I think could have been too much for him. Of course he still had great results in 2009 as well. I think the puncture at the Vuelta may have helped motivate him for the World's. Thankfully the ups and downs got ironed out at the Tour in 2011.
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Evans was not consistent in 09 but he still did 2 good rides at the Vuelta and WC. In 2010 he would have had a good season but got sick at the Giro/ crashed at the TDF.
Wiggins finished 3rd last year.
Vino came close to winning the TDF in 03 as well.
Menchov wasn't too shabby either in 2010. Legitimate 3rd place and was already on his decline after 2009's Giro performance. Menchov also could've had better luck in his earlier years - the shared Rasmussen and Freire green objectives cost him a lot of rider support when he was with Rabobank, and later with Gesink coming aboard as the next big thing didn't help either. And though he was on the decline, not being able to ride in 2011 due to political issues didn't give him a fair chance to prove his legs.
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At least Nibali has lived up to his hype a lot more than Kreuziger has. I think Nibali has and is living up to his hype very well.
Indeed. You can't put that down to "luck"
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Indeed. You can't put that down to "luck"
of course he's good. but he's not within the top ten best cyclists in the world. the reason he is ranked so high is just luck and lots of it.
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of course he's good. but he's not within the top ten best cyclists in the world. the reason he is ranked so high is just luck and lots of it.
Top ten best cyclist in the world,uhm thats interesting.What are yours?
Mine top ten in their category
Cavendish,Greipel,Sagan,Boonen,Cancellara,Wiggins, Rodriguez,Contador,Gilbert,Valverde
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what? quintana is already better climber than froome. see final stages of the tour and he's only 23. quintana is the best climber I've sene since pantani. he will become a legend
I am a fan of Afrank's hyping posts!
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Menchov wasn't too shabby either in 2010. Legitimate 3rd place and was already on his decline after 2009's Giro performance. Menchov also could've had better luck in his earlier years - the shared Rasmussen and Freire green objectives cost him a lot of rider support when he was with Rabobank, and later with Gesink coming aboard as the next big thing didn't help either. And though he was on the decline, not being able to ride in 2011 due to political issues didn't give him a fair chance to prove his legs.
Gesink worked for Menchov in the Tour 2010, so I don't know what you're talking about.
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of course he's good. but he's not within the top ten best cyclists in the world. the reason he is ranked so high is just luck and lots of it.
Luck doesn't play any more a role in Nibali's ranking than it does in any other riders. It is ridiculous to reduce a riders entire results as just because of luck, luck plays a role but it is not the ultimate factor in how a rider does.
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