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Old 11-15-12, 12:08
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Its been a few days (well, over a week) since I have been on here.

Has anyone else signed this no doping thing from Sky? Mostly interested in the riders. It all seems to have gone very quiet on that front.

All that I know is Froome and Porte have signed it?

Do they think we are not bothered that the dust is settling? Because its not!
They have hired an Aussie head triathlon coach to replace Julich, but otherwise no back office staff have been mentioned as having signed the doping thing, no other riders mentioned beyond Porte and Froome having signed.

Nada.

Laughable.
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Yep. The A-team riders can all sign without fear since they are on the Sky program and are therefore protected
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Old 11-15-12, 12:19
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What a laughing stock.

Quick to get the most suspectable member on the team signed to dampen things down.

Pffft
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They have hired an Aussie head triathlon coach to replace Julich, but otherwise no back office staff have been mentioned as having signed the doping thing, no other riders beyond Porte and Froome have signed.

Nada.

Laughable.
Why laughable? Did they talk about a timescale?
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Old 11-15-12, 12:26
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Why laughable? Did they talk about a timescale?
You do realise most teams will soon be training for the new season? Most teams have released their team roster for next season, albeit shy of a couple of Neo's etc?

How long are they going to wait? Something as important as this needs sorting so they dont become magnets for finger pointers.........oh.
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Old 11-15-12, 12:33
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Why laughable? Did they talk about a timescale?
Why can't they all sign the day they announce it? Why is it only the known ex-doper back-office staff have been mentioned, anywhere?

Rogers has question marks, big time. *crickets*

There's enough people getting together to interview and hire a new coach, but no mention of him signing the anti-doping pledge thingy, or people like Kerrison, who you would expect to be involved, having signed it.

Consistency develops trust. Sky are severely lacking consistency right now.

Laughably so.
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Old 11-15-12, 12:35
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They have hired an Aussie head triathlon coach to replace Julich, but otherwise no back office staff have been mentioned as having signed the doping thing, no other riders mentioned beyond Porte and Froome having signed.

Nada.

Laughable.
From a Sky perspective, this is only to do with limiting their damage if a Sky team member is shown to have doped in the past. With the document signed, Sky can sack the team member on the spot and demonstrate clearly that they have been lied to by a scoundrel who was given a perfect opportunity to fess up and move on, with generous financial support. Most people will accept that there is only so much an employer can do in the face of duplicitous behaviour by a rogue employee.

At the moment, there's no benefit to Sky in them publicising who has signed and who hasn't. The benefit only arises if a retrosepective doping scandal emerges.

If the documents are largely unsigned and a doping scandal does emerge then Sky are in deep doo-doo, as it will be clear that they have done nothing to deal with the issue of historic doping offences and will have no plausible means of claiming that they did anything about it.
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From a Sky perspective, this is only to do with limiting their damage if a Sky team member is shown to have doped in the past. With the document signed, Sky can sack the team member on the spot and demonstrate clearly that they have been lied to by a scoundrel who was given a perfect opportunity to fess up and move on, with generous financial support. Most people will accept that there is only so much an employer can do in the face of duplicitous behaviour by a rogue employee.

At the moment, there's no benefit to Sky in them publicising who has signed and who hasn't. The benefit only arises if a retrosepective doping scandal emerges.

If the documents are largely unsigned and a doping scandal does emerge then Sky are in deep doo-doo, as it will be clear that they have done nothing to deal with the issue of historic doping offences and will have no plausible means of claiming that they did anything about it.
I don't follow. Do they have a zero tolerance policy, yes or no? Are they requiring everyone on the team to sign said policy, yes or no? Why mention only Porte and Froome? Why only fire others?

Completely inconsistent. Low quality. A joke.
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They have hired an Aussie head triathlon coach to replace Julich, but otherwise no back office staff have been mentioned as having signed the doping thing, no other riders mentioned beyond Porte and Froome having signed.

Nada.

Laughable.
Perhaps Sky have taken a leaf out of Orica GE's book
and riders get to sign in late July, 2013?

On the other hand, it may be because Brailsford has the Glasgow track WC, this weekend.

Or it may be, as you say.
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Why can't they all sign the day they announce it? Why is it only the known ex-doper back-office staff have been mentioned, anywhere?

Rogers has question marks, big time. *crickets*

There's enough people getting together to interview and hire a new coach, but no mention of him signing the anti-doping pledge thingy, or people like Kerrison, who you would expect to be involved, having signed it.

Consistency develops trust. Sky are severely lacking consistency right now.

Laughably so.
why is it news if the riders signed it? it's only news if they didn;'t sign it. which means probably they all signed it, except some team directors
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