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Old 11-15-12, 06:33
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I will go back as far as I can, getting harder to find the data already. I'm trying to avoid Ferrari's numbers as they seem inflated (surprise surprise). Remember these are just the pure numbers, there are many other factors which aren't explained, although taking a whole season I hope that there is some cancelling out. The final aim is to show the season averages against one another.
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Old 11-15-12, 09:37
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Need some info on Vuelta 2009 if anyone has some. At the end I'll try and find uncut videos to do any times that are missing.



Alpe di Siusi 830m 8.30%
Petrano 834m 7.92%
Blockhaus 1099m
7.20% Vesuvio 967m 7.40%

Arcalis 751m 7.10%
Verbier 632m 7.63%
Romme 818m 9.30%
Colombiere 640m 8.50%
Ventoux 1383 8.54%

Velfique 694m 6.94%
La Pandera 680m 8.10%
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Old 11-15-12, 09:38
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What it all looks like so far:

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Old 11-15-12, 09:45
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Not many long climbs in 2012. Wonder if that was deliberate or not.
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Old 11-15-12, 10:00
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There were some, but the time is not always taken from the bottom and Cuitu Negru/Pajares are separated.

Next year is a dream for 40+min climbs though.
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Old 11-15-12, 15:57
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I would love to see these graphs color coded so we can distinguish individual riders' efforts.
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Old 11-16-12, 02:54
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That isn't the point. You can do that easily looking at individual performances.

The point of aggregation is to see if there are any trends. There are too many factors which cannot be accounted for in such a simple analysis. Any conclusions drawn will be weak, although I still hope it is enough to give us a bit more of an idea than we currently have.

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Old 11-16-12, 18:30
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What it all looks like so far:
Good job !
Quite clear from the 0-2000s durations that 2010=2012 both >2011
Consistent with 2012 (Sky) being dirtier than 2011 (Evans)
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Old 11-16-12, 21:55
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There were some, but the time is not always taken from the bottom and Cuitu Negru/Pajares are separated.

Next year is a dream for 40+min climbs though.
I'd think longer climbs would suit the diesel more than the shorter, steeper ones. Yet Wiggins is scared.
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Old 11-17-12, 10:55
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These averages from all 3 grand tours?
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