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Old 11-26-12, 20:08
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I worked at one of the biggest Colnago dealers in Australia.
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Where did you work again? You should know all this by now d-rider if you worked at a Colnago dealer.
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Pretty straight forward to me. The Ernesto fanboyz make some interesting theories though.
DR - What about answering Giuseppe's question?

Your tenuous credibility is taking a serious battering if you cannot answer a simple question from someone who has worked in the industry for decades and can call you on your usual BS any day of the week.
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Almost 60 years in business and never a recall. Ernesto is either really good at choosing frame builders, or he's extremely lucky.
There's no doubt the Colnago brand has a halo around it and they do a great job maintaining it. But it doesn't make them that special. What Colnago is doing is not easy. But, they aren't defying odds at their price points either.

If we are talking about modern carbon, then how many recalls are there out of the same OEM?
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Old 11-27-12, 00:19
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Trek, Giant, Cannondale Specialized, Azzuri etc give lifetime warranty cos they believe in their product.

Colnago don't give lifetime warranty cos they don't believe in their product.

Pretty straight forward to me. The Ernesto fanboyz make some interesting theories though.
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There's no doubt the Colnago brand has a halo around it and they do a great job maintaining it. But it doesn't make them that special. What Colnago is doing is not easy. But, they aren't defying odds at their price points either.
Sure, if you look at it that way. They're justified in their pricing structure just from a historical standpoint alone, but if I'm not mistaken there are a few frames out there that are close to, or even beyond what a C59 or M10 costs. Actually, word on the street is that the C59 is on it's way out in one or two more seasons.

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If we are talking about modern carbon, then how many recalls are there out of the same OEM?
That may be a better question for Giant. Colnago R&D people spend an awful lot of time and resources in Taiwan, more than you'd think from the last hold outs of the true "made in Italy" frames with the C59. If you've noticed there are none, or very minimal Chinese knock-offs of Colnago, not even the M10, the rest of the brands are copied to no end.
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Giant is probably producing the M10 if past history is any indication.
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Cool. It comes in a total of four--count 'em, FOUR--sizes. Hey, remember back in the day when a quality frame meant it came in increments of 1 centimeter? Of course back then there were stems sold in 5mm increments. Ain't progress grand.
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Cool. It comes in a total of four--count 'em, FOUR--sizes. Hey, remember back in the day when a quality frame meant it came in increments of 1 centimeter? Of course back then there were stems sold in 5mm increments. Ain't progress grand.
Yeah, that's why we ride custom!

What are you looking at? M10 is 8 sizes, C59 is 22.
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Yeah, that's why we ride custom!

What are you looking at? M10 is 8 sizes, C59 is 22.
I am looking at Durian's great deal. Four sizes: S, M, L, XL.

Luckily there is a $600 Nashbar carbon frame that comes in 5 sizes.

http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...82_-1___202389
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I am looking at Durian's great deal. Four sizes: S, M, L, XL.

Luckily there is a $600 Nashbar carbon frame that comes in 5 sizes.

http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...82_-1___202389
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Cool. It comes in a total of four--count 'em, FOUR--sizes. Hey, remember back in the day when a quality frame meant it came in increments of 1 centimeter? Of course back then there were stems sold in 5mm increments. Ain't progress grand.
Interesting you noticed that. Azzuri are starting to turn over more of these bikes and a lot of people buying them tend to be new(ish) to the sport and are really looking at value for money first and foremost. The result is most Azzuri riders I have seen are in rather poor positions. No excuses really, even Giant and Merida do 5/6 frame sizes.
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From what I understand you can get a mold made for $10,000.4 or 5 sizes is ridiculous.
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