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Old 11-24-12, 21:26
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At least now when he fails to live up to all the hype (that he created over himself) he won't have anything or anyone to blame it on but himself.
Not so sure about this. Given my last post, about 2012, 2013 could be like this:

In April 2013 they issue a press statement, Fuglsang has slight knee problems.
Then he leaves Dauphiné after four days, due to a cold and his slight knee troubles. He starts the Tour, finishes 31st in Paris, still has 2 years contract. Then, in 2014, Astana announce they start the Tour with two captains, Fuglsang and Nibali.
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Old 11-25-12, 01:32
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But maybe it's Vino's decision, then it's understandable. In 2011 Vino was Astana's GC rider, that's about as stupid as making Fuglsang leader.
He had just gone well in the Tour of Romandie/ the Dauphinie. He also wanted to wear yellow just once. Who else did they have, for GC?
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He had just gone well in the Tour of Romandie/ the Dauphinie. He also wanted to wear yellow just once. Who else did they have, for GC?
Kreuziger would have been more logical, since he was 9th in the Tour in both 2009 and 2010. Vino should've done the Giro, and then take the form he built up there to take yellow in the first week. It's possible for riders to stay in good shape for over a month after the finish of a GT, and at least Kreuziger would've had his own chance in the Tour.
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Kreuziger would have been more logical, since he was 9th in the Tour in both 2009 and 2010. Vino should've done the Giro, and then take the form he built up there to take yellow in the first week. It's possible for riders to stay in good shape for over a month after the finish of a GT, and at least Kreuziger would've had his own chance in the Tour.
He had a peak for LBL
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Kreuziger would have been more logical, since he was 9th in the Tour in both 2009 and 2010.
Vino was the fifth strongest in the 2010 Giro, which compares favorably to Kreuziger's recent attempts, so it stands to reason that Vino was capable of that himself. AND win a stage or two.
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So who will Astana take to the giro?
Nibali
Tiralongo
Kessiakoff (according to fuglesang @feltet)
Agnoli
Vanotti
Muravyev
Brajkovic
Iglinskiy
Ponzi

Res. Zeits ?

Reading fuglesangs comments looks like there is a gc split for tour and giro?
Maybe birdsongs group is;
Kangert
Grivko
Dyachenko
Seeldrayers

Looking forward to Guardini picking up a few W
But what kind of train could be used for him???
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So who will Astana take to the giro?
Nibali
Tiralongo
Kessiakoff (according to fuglesang @feltet)
Agnoli
Vanotti
Muravyev
Brajkovic
Iglinskiy
Ponzi

Res. Zeits ?

Reading fuglesangs comments looks like there is a gc split for tour and giro?
Maybe birdsongs group is;
Kangert
Grivko
Dyachenko
Seeldrayers

Looking forward to Guardini picking up a few W
But what kind of train could be used for him???
In a nutshell:

Nibali gets the best
Fuglsang gets the leftovers


Vino well knows who's likely to get results....
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Old 11-27-12, 17:11
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So who will Astana take to the giro?
Nibali
Tiralongo
Kessiakoff (according to fuglesang @feltet)
Agnoli
Vanotti
Muravyev
Brajkovic
Seeldrayers
Ponzi/Grivko/Aru

Res. Zeits ?

Reading fuglesangs comments looks like there is a gc split for tour and giro?
Maybe birdsongs group is;
Kangert
Grivko
Dyachenko
Seeldrayers

Looking forward to Guardini picking up a few W
But what kind of train could be used for him???
No way Iglinsky will do the giro after his classics season (Rvv to LBL). Would think Seeldrayers will do the giro next year too.

The train could easily be Bazayev, Bozic, and the fast italians (Ponzi and Gavazzi) + a tter like Grivko or Muravyev
edit: and Gaspa ofc
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Old 11-27-12, 17:13
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So who will Astana take to the giro?
Nibali
Tiralongo
Kessiakoff (according to fuglesang @feltet)
Agnoli
Vanotti
Muravyev
Brajkovic
Iglinskiy
Ponzi
Giro team looks very strong.

They better take Guardini to France as backup.
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I was at official team presentation today in Astana today. Entire team plus a few officials plus Vino invited two other London Olympic champions.

New form is pretty cool. The sun and the eagle are still missing though D:

Nibali said he is still doing full Spring cycle with Tireno, Milan-San Remo and classic.

Nibali and Iglinsky both were asked how they and Gasparotto are going to share the classics. They said they will work as a team and will decide on the form inside the race.

They kept propping new kazakhstani guys, especially Lutsenko with him being world under champion and all.

Everyone were pretty cool, it was pretty informal. Everyone had a chance to talk with any rider a bit after QA and take photos.

Btw, it was -30 C (-22 F) today in Astana today. Some of the riders probably never ever felt a cold like this.

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