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View Poll Results: Who will win 2013 GIRO?
Nibali 90 32.03%
Rodriguez 29 10.32%
Hesjedal 16 5.69%
Basso 9 3.20%
Wiggins 106 37.72%
Scarponi 2 0.71%
Others 29 10.32%
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Old 11-27-12, 15:33
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Bonus points (20 for 1st place) for all stages in the Giro ring a bell? His window of opportunity is reducing, but he should be able to keep a similar shape for next year.
Finally he will ride the TDF next year. That's why i think he wont have more opportunities in Italia.
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Such riders don't exist. He would have blown away from the peloton on flat. Brajkovic is 58 as minimum.



Previous 5 years clearly show that TT's decide more than mountains if we look into contenders of comparable level. There is a 50 km TT. Basso will lose to Wiggins 3 minutes in case of the best scenario. The main problem is he can not get away on pedalabele climbs and the stages are not difficult enough that the opponents would be dropped due to tiredness. Next year he won't have a team. I don't see Basso get on the podium if 2-3 main contenders won't fail.
those riders do exist. for instance david livramento is 182 x55
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those riders do exist. for instance david livramento is 182 x55
Holy ****. I have 176x62 and I think I have good weight for climber but 182x55 is insane
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lol david livramento makes rasmussen look fat he did a good job at the volta this year i must say.
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Meh. Purito made it, so why not Hesjedal.
+1, I think Hesjedal could have made it if he had come to the Vuelta with his Giro form. Rodriguez's performance in the Vuelta wasn't that much better than his Giro performance, so I think Hesjedal would have been up there with 3 Spaniards.
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didn't jens link us a few weeks ago to a blog with ascent times and watts calculations that said purito was riding like 0.3 w/Kg higher then he was at the giro?
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didn't jens link us a few weeks ago to a blog with ascent times and watts calculations that said purito was riding like 0.3 w/Kg higher then he was at the giro?
yeah but the Vuelta stages were mostly 1 climb where as the Giro stages were longer and harder so its hard to compare.

My own suspicion though is that Purito, who struggled with the 2011 Giro, would have been slightly more on it at his home race.

As a defensive rider, following Contador attacking 8k out on stages was more likely to bring the absolute best out of Purito. As a Punchy rider the more explosive stages of the Vuelta suited him more as did the home support and the heat.

Also worth remembering that in his Giro prep Purito was already flying at Vuelta a Pais Vasco and then Fleche Wallone, in April.

In his Vuelta prep though he didnt even contest his beloved Vuelta a Burgos in order to make sure that peak form hit at exactly the right place.

So would Hejsedal have been able to follow the 3 spaniards at the Vuelta. I dont know. My suspicion is that he would have done better than recovering Gesink and tired Froome but still been a little bit behind the 3 caballeros.
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From interviews I've read over the last month or so Porte, Rogers and Kennaugh have all said they're very likely to be riding the Giro with Wiggins.

Obviously there's some doubt whether Rogers will even be on the team next year but that's for another forum...

I would say Cataldo is also very likely. Wiggins likes Knees as his wind shield on the flat so he'll probably be there. I think Eisel will be there as road captain and presumably one of the Colombians for the Giro clmbs.

So something like:

Wiggins
Porte
Uran/Henao
Rogers
Cataldo
Kennaugh
Knees
Swift
Eisel

Leaving the Tour line-up as something like:

Froome
Wiggins
Uran/Henao
Kiryienka
Siutsov
EBH
Thomas
Stannard
Eisel
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From interviews I've read over the last month or so Porte, Rogers and Kennaugh have all said they're very likely to be riding the Giro with Wiggins.

Obviously there's some doubt whether Rogers will even be on the team next year but that's for another forum...

I would say Cataldo is also very likely. Wiggins likes Knees as his wind shield on the flat so he'll probably be there. I think Eisel will be there as road captain and presumably one of the Colombians for the Giro clmbs.

So something like:

Wiggins
Porte
Uran/Henao
Rogers
Cataldo
Kennaugh
Knees
Swift
Eisel

Leaving the Tour line-up as something like:

Froome
Wiggins
Uran/Henao
Kiryienka
Siutsov
EBH
Thomas
Stannard
Eisel
Kiriyenka is one of the riders who really loves the giro so maybe he will be in that team.
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