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View Poll Results: Who will win 2013 GIRO?
Nibali 90 32.03%
Rodriguez 29 10.32%
Hesjedal 16 5.69%
Basso 9 3.20%
Wiggins 106 37.72%
Scarponi 2 0.71%
Others 29 10.32%
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Old 11-28-12, 13:58
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AC probably wasn't 100%, but Purito also clearly found a way to respond to his attacks, which he didn't have before. After all, Contador had only been out of business for a few months.
A few months being a whole year or do you think the Tour de San Luis had such a great effect on him?

It's rather obvious why Rodriguez looked so much better than in the Giro. The Vuelta route suited him much better. Hesjedal would've gotten beaten by Rodriguez on the Vuelta route. Can't believe no one mentioned this obvious fact yet lol.
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Purito and Hesjedal were more or less equals in the Tour 2010. They were again in the Giro 2012, no surprises there.
If their strength stayed equal in 2 years I don't see why it should change in a matter of 4 months.
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A few months being a whole year or do you think the Tour de San Luis had such a great effect on him?

It's rather obvious why Rodriguez looked so much better than in the Giro. The Vuelta route suited him much better. Hesjedal would've gotten beaten by Rodriguez on the Vuelta route. Can't believe no one mentioned this obvious fact yet lol.
actually I did just 2 posts before you u.u
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Can't believe no one mentioned this obvious fact yet lol.
Yeah, cant believe no one mentioned this. Brilliant comprehension skills again Pistrollero


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yeah but the Vuelta stages were mostly 1 climb where as the Giro stages were longer and harder

My suspicion is that he would have done better than recovering Gesink and tired Froome but still been a little bit behind the 3 caballeros.
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Surely he had something more during the Vuelta, but only due to the fact that the race was taylor made for him. .
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Old 11-28-12, 14:24
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Then what's the point of this discussion? Hesjedal would've gotten destroyed. Besides Jrod underestimated Hesjedal, he didn't underestimate Valverde and Contador.

Oh and it doesn't really matter if the Giro had longer and multiple mountain stages. They only started racing on the final climb anyway besides one or two stages. It's the type of final mountain and the underestimation of Hesjedal that really mattered.
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Old 11-28-12, 14:30
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Then what's the point of this discussion? [1] Hesjedal would've gotten destroyed. Besides Jrod underestimated Hesjedal, he didn't underestimate Valverde and Contador.[2]

Oh and it doesn't really matter if the Giro had longer and multiple mountain stages.[3] They only started racing on the final climb anyway besides one or two stages. It's the type of final mountain and the underestimation of Hesjedal that really mattered.
1 - The point is "Was Purito stronger in the Vuelta,compared to the Giro?"
2 - He did underestimate Hesjedal, sure, but he lost the Vuelta by underestimating Contador.
3 - I disagree, but don't wanna start another pointless argument. Maybe another time.
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Holy ****. I have 176x62 and I think I have good weight for climber but 182x55 is insane
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If their strength stayed equal in 2 years I don't see why it should change in a matter of 4 months.
I mean to say that Hesjedal following Purito is not such a surprise, and it happened before. Purito following Contador hasn't.

Last year, Purito was bad at the beginning of the Giro, and great at the end. And superb in the Dauphiné. Then he was great in Burgos and at the beginning of the Vuelta, but not at the end. Obviously something went wrong there, in terms of peaking.

And he got it right this time. Slightly off top form in the Giro, then take it down until after Burgos, and then hit top form in the Vuelta.
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Ivan Basso is going to disappoint many British who watch cycling since this year's Tour
Basso is going to struggle to win anything when his main climbing support is going to be Cameron Wurf and Sarmiento. He might have Caruso as well, but it's going to be a tough season for him.
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1 - The point is "Was Purito stronger in the Vuelta,compared to the Giro?"
2 - He did underestimate Hesjedal, sure, but he lost the Vuelta by underestimating Contador.
That's a good question, I'd like to hear more on this. On point 2, Purito wasn't really in the driver's seat, meaning that he wasn't the overwhelming favorite or his confidence wasn't sky high. Neither Hesjedal was expected to contest for the win, so I'm not sure if 'underestimate' is the right word there. And yes, Purito and KAT underestimated Contador on one stage. Lights out!
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