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View Poll Results: Best exhibition of any rider since 2007.
Andy Schleck Galibier 2011 14 13.86%
Tom Boonen Roubaix 2012 12 11.88%
Alberto Contador Fuente Dé 2012 16 15.84%
Fabian Cancellara Roubaix 2010 26 25.74%
Philippe Gilbert Liege 2011 1 0.99%
Carlos Sastre Alpe D'Huez 2008 5 4.95%
Ivan Basso Zoncolan 2010 5 4.95%
Alberto Contador Verbier 2009 11 10.89%
Alejandro Valverde Plumelec 2008 0 0%
Other 11 10.89%
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Considering the bond that exists between the 2 brothers it's not too far fetched that Andy would make such a high risk attack to benefit his brother since his chances had been blown on a previous stage.
with what emotions you ended to watch that stagE? burnt from the inside a little bit?

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with what emotions you ended to watch that stagE?
I ended up wondering why he didn't commit to an effort like this earlier in the Tour knowing that he needed a cushion to make up for his inevitable time loss in the TT's.
Entertaining as it was I knew it wouldn't be enough regardless of how optimistic he tried to play to the media.
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with what emotions you ended to watch that stagE? burnt from the inside a little bit?
What do you mean by this addition to your original post? Is this like anger in the belly?
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the "only" difference btw contador's solo and andy's solo was that contador was about to lose the vuelta simply because despite trying everywhere, he couldn't drop rodrigues. andy was about to lose the tour because he didn't try as he should in the pyreneus and then got scared of a descent a lost a minute there.

simply put both were running out of road and in positions to lose the race but one was there because he lacked strength while the other was there because he lacked aggression.

had andy raced the entire tour as he did on those last 2 mountain stages being properly aggressive instead of trying 2 second long accelerations, he would have probably won the tour.
Difference is though contador was 15s behind and still had the return of the king home stage at bola del mundo, where all he would need was a handful of seconds. Andy though was level with Evans but projected to lose 2 minutes on the tt so he really needed big time unlike contador who could take back almost his entire advantage with bonus seconds alone.
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Difference is though contador was 15s behind and still had the return of the king home stage at bola del mundo, where all he would need was a handful of seconds. Andy though was level with Evans but projected to lose 2 minutes on the tt so he really needed big time unlike contador who could take back almost his entire advantage with bonus seconds alone.
Except Rodriquez was better on those kind of climbs all Vuelta - including Bola del Mundo. The stage to Fuente Dé was Contador's best chance and I think he knew it. Contador engineered a TT situation where he would be stronger than Purito. Which was of course very impressive, but lets not rewrite the Vuelta, Rodriquez was the best climber - just about
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Except Rodriquez was better on those kind of climbs all Vuelta - including Bola del Mundo. The stage to Fuente Dé was Contador's best chance and I think he knew it. Contador engineered a TT situation where he would be stronger than Purito. Which was of course very impressive, but lets not rewrite the Vuelta, Rodriquez was the best climber - just about
Purito wasn't the better climber, he was just a better sprinter. When did purito take time on Contador?

Contador dropped purito a few times but he always came back with the better sprint at the end. That's it.
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Purito wasn't the better climber, he was just a better sprinter. When did purito take time on Contador?

Contador dropped purito a few times but he always came back with the better sprint at the end. That's it.
+1 We saw it in Ancares or Lagos. Purito was the best uphill finisher. Not climber.
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it doesn't change essence. The strongest climber is one who gains the time on high mountains. That was Rodriguez.
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Except Rodriquez was better on those kind of climbs all Vuelta - including Bola del Mundo. The stage to Fuente Dé was Contador's best chance and I think he knew it. Contador engineered a TT situation where he would be stronger than Purito. Which was of course very impressive, but lets not rewrite the Vuelta, Rodriquez was the best climber - just about
Only you are assuming contador would do nothing until the last 3k of the final climb. We already saw on cuitu negru and of course fuente de that contador was willing to try stuff with his team. if nothing else he would have had majka and co drill it from the start. And bola may seem a relatively meh climb until the final 3k but remember nibalis entire team blew up on the lower slopes in 2010 and that included kreuziger who was giving a superdomestique performance every bit as impressive as szmyd at the giro . To say that purito had it in the bag cos he had a 15s lead with the main mountain stage still to be ridden is stretching it.
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Btw another difference in this **** measuring contest is that schleck did it on a stage designed to be stage of the decade. Contador did it on just about the 1 stage the organizers did not want a gc battle on.

Conclusion: contadors is longer.
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