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Old 11-28-12, 18:25
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We could start with, say, this kind of stuff:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/lorentho...idnt-work-out/

Government's not supposed to be picking winners and losers anyway, right?
I agree. But this will be taken care of when the DOD is eliminated, so it's redundant.
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Old 11-28-12, 18:36
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I agree. But this will be taken care of when the DOD is eliminated, so it's redundant.
Odd, I'd have thought defense would be a playground for fiscal hawks, considering the amount of taxpayer money that's being wasted by the military. We could easily save hundreds of billions with no impact on defensive capabilities whatsoever - isn't that your ideal? Or is it only entitlements where taxpayer money is being wasted?
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In the greater scheme of things it's a pimple on humanity's bum.

The Senate killed the bill. The Senate agreed to some idiotic rule last year. The Senate is controlled by your boys and girls. Maybe start there?
Sure. Let's look at the voting breakdown:

Republicans who voted yea: 1

Uh oh. Doesn't like it was the Ds who killed it.

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On the other hand... if you want to die on this hill then feel free.
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Even the Republicans who signed on to the bill as co-sponsors voted to kill their own bill. That is normal operating procedure by Republicans in Congress and has been since Barack Obama was first elected president. They will kill their own bills rather than allow a Democrat or the president to get a win. They call that governing.
Yep. Pragmatic bunch, they are, always doing what's best for the country.
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Old 11-28-12, 18:43
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Odd, I'd have thought defense would be a playground for fiscal hawks, considering the amount of taxpayer money that's being wasted by the military. We could easily save hundreds of billions with no impact on defensive capabilities whatsoever - isn't that your ideal? Or is it only entitlements where taxpayer money is being wasted?
Finally! Yes, sir. Same could be said for each and every department in this horribly bloated Federal Government, without exception.

I'm glad you are finally on board. It's not a revenue problem. It's a waste in spending problem and always has been.

I'm thrilled we are in agreement on this.
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Sure. Let's look at the voting breakdown:

Republicans who voted yea: 1

Uh oh. Doesn't like it was the Ds who killed it.

Ah, diversion. Back to the original point:

Yep. Pragmatic bunch, they are, always doing what's best for the country.
So, let me get this straight... repubs normally vote against tax increases? Is that what you are saying?
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...so you don't have a clue?...or is there something more at play here?....

Cheers

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I don't have a clue but will play along.

How in the hell did y'all let Black Friday across the border?????? WTF?

I was in Canadian Tire the other day getting some tools and the sign said Black Friday sale. I had to stop and stare at it and let it sink in. THEY HAD followed me up here! Capitalist pigs.

Hey man I got a MCP card but have not used it. guess I should try it out.
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I'm glad you are finally on board. It's not a revenue problem. It's a waste in spending problem and always has been.
Here in the real world, it's striking a fair balance between spending and revenues and always has been.
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I was in Canadian Tire the other day
Do they still have Canadian Tire money?
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So, let me get this straight... repubs normally vote against tax increases? Is that what you are saying?
No, I'm saying that this is an example of the ludicrousness of Rs having to adhere to a rigid ideological fixee - any and all revenues are bad, no matter what shape, size, or form - to such a degree that they'd rather scuttle an entire bill rather than compromise.

Quite the pragmatic approach, eh?
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Old 11-28-12, 19:54
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No, I'm saying that this is an example of the ludicrousness of Rs having to adhere to a rigid ideological fixee - any and all revenues are bad, no matter what shape, size, or form - to such a degree that they'd rather scuttle an entire bill rather than compromise.

Quite the pragmatic approach, eh?
Oh, I see.

That is kinda rigid. Sorta like the dems and entitlement cut compromises.

So we have gone full circle (again). Your side is principled, the other side isn't. Got it.
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