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Old 11-30-12, 14:30
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So, you agree then. He's not a leader.
So there's Obama's offer.

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-mone...om-white-house

Where's the R plan?

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History won't be kind to his clown. The really good news is by the time this history is written, we'll all be history.
Says the guy who voted for GW Bush. Twice. And who now complains about the state of the economy.
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Old 11-30-12, 14:35
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...Krauthammer hasn't "nailed" much of anything for decades...so what is your point?....except maybe bringing up a few comments on the technique and style of the political violin playing that is accompanying the burning of the current "Rome"...

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Then there's George Will:

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During the November 18 edition of ABC's This Week, conservative Washington Post columnist George Will suggested that the tax policy of House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) has a weightier mandate than President Obama's proposals because Republicans retained a majority in the House in the 2012 elections. In fact, Democratic House candidates received more votes than Republicans
Yep, the Rs have a mandate because they didn't lose the House. Or something.
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Old 11-30-12, 14:41
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Krauthammer nails it. So much for dems and good faith negotiations. Balanced approach? Smoke and mirrors and always has been.



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...walk_away.html
Aw man, please let the Rs walk away!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...major-problem/

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The poll also indicates that the GOP is not exactly bargaining from a position of strength. Fifty-three percent of the country has an unfavorable view of the Republican Party; only 42% want to see congressional Republican have more influence than the president over the direction the nation takes in the next two years. And seven in ten say the GOP has not done enough to cooperate with Obama.

All of that helps explain why more Americans would blame the Republicans in Congress (45%) rather than Obama (34%) if the fiscal cliff provisions actually go into effect next year. Obama comes in for his share of criticism - nearly half say he is not doing enough to cooperate with the Republicans, although seven in ten want him to compromise with the GOP even if he has to sacrifice some of his beliefs.
Krauthammer is an idiot who's still living in the conservative fantasy-world bubble and refuses to wake up to reality - it would be a disaster for the Rs if they walked away and the Ds would have a great chance at regaining control of the House in 2014 if it's perceived that it was the Rs who let the country go over the fiscal cliff. Problem is, Boehner knows which side will be held responsible, he won't let it happen.

But hey, who cares if the fiscal cliff would devastate the economy and impact millions of peoples lives, to people like Krauthammer maintaining ideological purity is more important than doing what's best for the country.

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...Krauthammer hasn't "nailed" much of anything for decades...sort of like dredging up something from Thomas Friedman to "prove" a point...total waste of time....so what is your point?....except maybe bringing up a few comments on the technique and style of the political violin playing that is accompanying the burning of the current "Rome"...

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So now it's fashionable to take swipes at those that suffer from paraplegia?

Maybe you could impress us further with a couple of Steven Hawking jokes.
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So there's Obama's offer.

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-mone...om-white-house

Where's the R plan?

Says the guy who voted for GW Bush. Twice. And who now complains about the state of the economy.
Well, now there's a plan.

Tax now cut later... And new stimulus spending.

Still blaming Bush? At least you are consistent.
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Aw man, please let the Rs walk away!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...major-problem/

Krauthammer is an idiot who's still living in the conservative fantasy-world bubble and refuses to wake up to reality - it would be a disaster for the Rs if they walked away and the Ds would have a great chance at regaining control of the House in 2014 if it's perceived that it was the Rs who let the country go over the fiscal cliff. Problem is, Boehner knows which side will be held responsible, he won't let it happen.

But hey, who cares if the fiscal cliff would devastate the economy and impact millions of peoples lives, to people like Krauthammer maintaining ideological purity is more important than doing what's best for the country.

Sequestration was an administration ploy. If it goes there, which is increasingly likely (see Patty Murray) then there will be plenty of blame to spread around.

As to purity... tax now, spend now, save later is all you guys know and have ever known.

Can we tax our way to economic growth? It's a simple question.
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Every severe conservative knows that the best time to cut government spending during a recession or a shaky recovery from one rather than during the good times. The good times are for expanding the military budget and starting Republican wars.
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Well, now there's a plan.

Tax now cut later... And new stimulus spending.

Still blaming Bush? At least you are consistent.
You asked for a plan from Obama. There's one. Not my problem if you don't like it. Where's the R plan?
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Sequestration was an administration ploy. If it goes there, which is increasingly likely (see Patty Murray) then there will be plenty of blame to spread around.
Nope, not the way the public will perceive it. Most of the burden is on the Rs. That's a consequence of the election.

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As to purity... tax now, spend now, save later is all you guys know and have ever known.
Which is why the Ds keep offering to make cuts to spending and entitlements Meanwhile, the only economic solution the Rs have is "no new taxes ever under any circumstances" - good times, recession, doesn't matter, the R mantra remains the same.

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Can we tax our way to economic growth? It's a simple question.
Nope, but then no one is suggesting that except the conservatives who don't seem to be able to comprehend how this is going to be played out.

How do you think slashing spending during a weak economy will affect economic growth?
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...gee...am I glad I was wearing full Hazmat protection when I read your post....gawd, what sewer...errr...wrong wing playbook did you pull that out of?...because that was rank, even for you....

...but in another light that was most wonderful...it provided in stark relief the distilled essence of who you are, what you do here and how you do it.....thank you so very much for providing such a perfect benchmark to help define for us a clear understanding of the filter spec we should apply when we look at your contributions....

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Actually B, right back at you.

I saw your post before you edited it. Selective indignation doesn't suit you.
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