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Old 12-01-12, 13:22
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That doesn't matter. It's about WHEN they get invited.
Quite frankly, I don't believe Contador when he says that, even if he's sincere in his intentions. There's just too much at stake for the team and the sponsors in the Tour for the man the team is built around to be allowed to skip it. Particularly when they've invested in a much improved team specifically to help him win the Tour.

Sure, they could send a credible team to the Tour without him and pick up a top 10 or whatever. But ultimately they've got a top notch support squad with no other real contender for the win to put it at the service of.

On a related note, if Rogers has joined and given that Sky will be splitting their resources between Giro and Tour, it's entirely possible that Saxo could have the strongest team at the Tour as well as the biggest favourite.

Contador, Kreuziger, Roche, Rogers, CAS... is an insanely strong way to start a team sheet. Contador could cause absolute mayhem in the mountains with that lot at his service. And it will also make it extremely difficult to catch him out with a clever tactical move, because he will will be very tough to isolate.

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Old 12-01-12, 13:54
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it is secondary. Real battle starts when everyone is isolated. If Kreuziger and Roche will have to salvage Contador, it can only mean he won't win.

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Old 12-01-12, 14:01
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it is secondary. Real battle starts when everyone is isolated.
Well, yes it's secondary, but it's not insignificant. JRod, for instance, might well have won the Vuelta if he had a stronger team when things went nuts. The Tour might have looked very different if Wiggins hadn't had super strong support. Contador has always had to rely on his own strength against riders who have often had stronger teams. There are even fewer opportunities open to those riders if he has the stronger team.
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Old 12-01-12, 14:30
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Contador, Kreuziger, Roche, Rogers, CAS... is an insanely strong way to start a team sheet. Contador could cause absolute mayhem in the mountains with that lot at his service. And it will also make it extremely difficult to catch him out with a clever tactical move, because he will will be very tough to isolate.
Alberto will isolate himself by attacking....the question will be Who can go with him
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Old 12-01-12, 14:49
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Hurrah Alberto says he didn't mean he'd retire when his contract is finished.
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Froome see's how Contador is already dressing himself in yellow in anticipation for July, how he rides with no helmet without fear, how he and his loyal second in command Kreuziger have grown thin, how he takes on the sprinters in a bunch sprint, and how Contador has given previews of what others will face in July in the form of Giro 2011 pictures....

...and he feels fear...
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Old 12-01-12, 16:11
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Froome see's how Contador is already dressing himself in yellow in anticipation for July, how he rides with no helmet without fear, how he and his loyal second in command Kreuziger have grown thin, how he takes on the sprinters in a bunch sprint, and how Contador has given previews of what others will face in July in the form of Giro 2011 pictures....

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Old 12-01-12, 16:18
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Quite frankly, I don't believe Contador when he says that, even if he's sincere in his intentions. There's just too much at stake for the team and the sponsors in the Tour for the man the team is built around to be allowed to skip it. Particularly when they've invested in a much improved team specifically to help him win the Tour.

Sure, they could send a credible team to the Tour without him and pick up a top 10 or whatever. But ultimately they've got a top notch support squad with no other real contender for the win to put it at the service of.

On a related note, if Rogers has joined and given that Sky will be splitting their resources between Giro and Tour, it's entirely possible that Saxo could have the strongest team at the Tour as well as the biggest favourite.

Contador, Kreuziger, Roche, Rogers, CAS... is an insanely strong way to start a team sheet. Contador could cause absolute mayhem in the mountains with that lot at his service. And it will also make it extremely difficult to catch him out with a clever tactical move, because he will will be very tough to isolate.
I dont know what that team will do in the ttt though. In the vuelta they could win it but at the tour sky will smash them bmc too(if it matters) and maybe radioshack as well

And in the mountains -wiggins porte henao/uran, kiryenka, id rather have froomes mountain.team too. Could end up being froome trying to defend a 1 min lead from ttt and first itt through the mountains and like the early vuelta 2012 stages, contador unable.to drop him.
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Old 12-01-12, 16:21
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I dont know what that team will do in the ttt though. In the vuelta they could win it but at the tour sky will smash them bmc too(if it matters) and maybe radioshack as well

And in the mountains -wiggins porte henao/uran, kiryenka, id rather have froomes mountain.team too. Could end up being froome trying to defend a 1 min lead from ttt and first itt through the mountains and like the early vuelta 2012 stages, contador unable.to drop him.
How is froome ever going to get a minute on Alberto in the tt and the ttt
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Froome see's how Contador is already dressing himself in yellow in anticipation for July, how he rides with no helmet without fear, how he and his loyal second in command Kreuziger have grown thin, how he takes on the sprinters in a bunch sprint, and how Contador has given previews of what others will face in July in the form of Giro 2011 pictures....

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How is froome ever going to get a minute on Alberto in the tt and the ttt
40 in the ttt,20 in the i.
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40 in the ttt,20 in the i.
How long is the ttt?
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