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Contador and Schleck should still be able to drop Froome. He's good, but they're on another level.
In 2010 they were on another level. In 2013 I doubt it.
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You say this as though Froome is going to ride the climbs in a defensive manner and poor Team Sky will have to construct a train to tow their hapless captain up to all main climbs. I can imagine many things, but the difference between 3 in the mountains won't be big.
I didn't mention Froome I implied the Sky train, which worked this year mainly because Andy and Bertie were not there. If, as you imply, Froome takes it to them next year bring it on, it should make for some great racing and probably from far out. Although much maligned, I can see the second assault up d'Huez as being where the cracks will appear big time
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Old 12-02-12, 15:14
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You seem to be stuck on 2010.
Yeah, that was one hell of a season for Froome Don't fret, I get your point
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Old 12-02-12, 15:42
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I didn't mention Froome I implied the Sky train, which worked this year mainly because Andy and Bertie were not there. If, as you imply, Froome takes it to them next year bring it on, it should make for some great racing and probably from far out. Although much maligned, I can see the second assault up d'Huez as being where the cracks will appear big time
You didn't mention Froome, but you implied Froome saying about fundamental team role in a possible Froome success.

Personally I don't consider a role of train too big in this year Tour. Rather the train had a control function. Apparently, Froome was #1 climber and Wiggins with Nibali #2. In addition racing situation never made Sky go really full bore besides Planche des Belles Filles. These 2 always had some reserve I think.

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Old 12-02-12, 15:52
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You didn't mention Froome, but you implied Froome saying about fundamental team role in a possible Froome success.

Personally I don't consider a role of train too big in this year Tour. Rather the train had a control function. Apparently, Froome was #1 climber and Wiggins with Nibali #2. In addition racing situation never made Sky go really full bore besides Planche des Belles Filles. These 2 always had some reserve I think.
You are correct with my implied implications BUT you miss the point that the Sky train only worked THIS year because the quality of riders like Andy and Bertie were not there. Yes, it was all about control but won't work against those two who would pick it apart. Leaving your new boy very exposed when the real action starts.
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In 2010 they were on another level. In 2013 I doubt it.
Also 2008 and 2009. And Bertie in 2011 at the Giro. Andy was a bit off that year, and, though his one stage victory was remarkable, it was only one stage. Andy might not be as dominant as he once was, but I think it's a mistake to expect Bertie to be no better than this year's Vuelta.
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Froome, for me at least, hasn't proven that he can deal with a salvo of attacks from someone like Contador or Schleck. He can respond the first 3 or 4 times, but eventually they should be able to put some time into him. Also his peculiar climbing style- he seems to be on the verge of cracking and then finds a reserve of energy from somewhere and fights back on- won't work in his favour, Contador could just time his attack when Froome is at his weakest and get a fair sized gap.

Of course, I may (probably will) be mistaken.

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The infamous Schleck documentery which has been said to been destroyed by Johan Bruyneel. Not a joke actully but here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yscI_...&feature=g-all
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