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Old 12-01-12, 23:22
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On your other comment, I too have never seen a Chinese knock off Colnago. Why is this so?
I'm sure Ernesto has spent mucho Lira on Chinese law firms to ensure his name stays intact. I would too if my pedigree was as extensive as his.

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Beppe, here's a real one I found on eBay, Buckler colours too
OMG that Buckler livery is so cool!! Never seen one for sale. I like the Super, but the Master is where it's at. Winter project. Behold my training bike for almost my entire racing career!! 1998 MasterXLight. My plate is full with 2 restos and a new custom build this winter.



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I am in the market for a good riad frame soon.If we are talking about value for money high end road frames,I would put Giant TCR top followed by Canyon.
Giant's TCR Adv is probably the best bargain for a full pro race rig out there, if you can get over how hideous it looks. Amazing handling characteristics, almost telepathic at speed in corners and descending. Very much like the Colnago's I used to race on.


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How long has that been the case? On the Colnago website it still says "available in 16 sizes and 3 color variations"--nothing about special order (not saying you're wrong, just surprise that this bike, which is still very popular--I see them around Seattle pretty often--would be special order only).
Colnago has always been special order, unless your shop is stocked like this......

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I know that bike shop very well. When I'm sound asleep and have all the money in the world, that's the shop I wander into.

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Punitive yes, but in a completely haphazard and illogical way.
No argument from me there.
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Ok enough slag'n Colnago and their crappy warranties but fancy paint work.

What is the best bargain for a road bike you's have seen recently? Help out the crew that are in the market. Im not but many are.
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... the Master is where it's at. Winter project. Behold my training bike for almost my entire racing career!! 1998 MasterXLight. My plate is full with 2 restos and a new custom build this winter.


Very nice indeed. One frame as the training bike throughout the career says a lot about Colnago's quality - especially the proprietary diconic X-light tubing. Have seen the bottom brackets drop out of more than one steel training bike from other frame-builders in my time.
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I'm neither a noob or know-nothing and the reseller doesn't "know" either. They hope they've chosen well from the few manufacturers turning out whole bikes with CEN certification and that's it. What's Colnago going to do differently at that point that makes it "better" than the other sticker set on the same line?

The expert's view is typical and legitimate Engineer worry. What is being described in the article is the risk inherent in building pretty much anything, only carbon makes detecting some failure conditions less likely.

Tinman is exactly right, waaaaaay too much BS in the bicycle retailing game.

I would argue the best deals are second-hand from people burned by the bike industry when they discover $10000 in gear doesn't make the sport easier.
Here's a detailed story and photoset on how the C-59 is made at Cambiago, not in Taiwan. Craftsmanship.

http://www.roadbikeaction.com/Featur...tory-Tour.html Sample photos ...





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Here's a detailed story and photoset on how the C-59 is made at Cambiago, not in Taiwan. Craftsmanship.
So your assertion is that only people in Europe can be craftsmen?

It's a shame no one has ever told Lexus that they manufacture crap.
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Hi all not sure where to put this posting but this thread seemed particulatly topical .

Just want to ask for your help in finding my bike. It was stolen yesterday, 12/2/2012, from downtown Santa Cruz, CA between 5 and 6 pm (big cable was cut). It was not in very good shape, needs a full overhaul and new bearings, rings, and cogs, due to the fact that I put 10,000 miles on it between mid May and mid October this year. It also has pretty big gashes from running as-big-as-it-can-take 'cross tires on 2000 miles of dirt and mud, while setting the speed record on Russia's "Road of Bones". In its current state of disrepair, it's probably not worth too much, but it's an awesome bike, a soft enough ride to do at least thirty consective daily centuries on it or a couple of consecutive double centuries without giving you saddle sores, rails descents like a beast, has the stopping power of a brick wall and the turn carving abilities of a slot car, and it has a lot of sentimental value to me, as I tried to ride around the world on it.

Attached is a photo from before the trip. When it was stolen, it did not have gear, a rack, or aero bars and it had LOOK pedals and black chainrings, nor did it have a goat trying to eat it, nor was it at a cafe on the transiberian highway. With any luck it's in the hands of some Heroin junkie in Santa Cruz still and the cops will find it within the week, but the cut cable, new york lock, and Giro Aeon helmet were also taken which makes me think there was a truck involved and it's probably out of county. Please let me know if you see it on craigslist or in real life. 2012 Volagi Liscio 55cm, mix of very used DA and Ultegra, FSA cranks, white on black with black aluminum wheels, serial # ends in 0036. My number is 831 For_Won_Nine 8956.

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What is the best bargain for a road bike you's have seen recently? Help out the crew that are in the market. Im not but many are.
Pedalforce.com Their bang for buck is pretty hard to beat, unless you deal in cheap Chinese open mold rejects on ebay.
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Hi all not sure where to put this posting but this thread seemed particulatly topical .

Just want to ask for your help in finding my bike. It was stolen yesterday, 12/2/2012, from downtown Santa Cruz, CA between 5 and 6 pm (big cable was cut). It was not in very good shape, needs a full overhaul and new bearings, rings, and cogs, due to the fact that I put 10,000 miles on it between mid May and mid October this year. It also has pretty big gashes from running as-big-as-it-can-take 'cross tires on 2000 miles of dirt and mud, while setting the speed record on Russia's "Road of Bones". In its current state of disrepair, it's probably not worth too much, but it's an awesome bike, a soft enough ride to do at least thirty consective daily centuries on it or a couple of consecutive double centuries without giving you saddle sores, rails descents like a beast, has the stopping power of a brick wall and the turn carving abilities of a slot car, and it has a lot of sentimental value to me, as I tried to ride around the world on it.

Attached is a photo from before the trip. When it was stolen, it did not have gear, a rack, or aero bars and it had LOOK pedals and black chainrings, nor did it have a goat trying to eat it, nor was it at a cafe on the transiberian highway. With any luck it's in the hands of some Heroin junkie in Santa Cruz still and the cops will find it within the week, but the cut cable, new york lock, and Giro Aeon helmet were also taken which makes me think there was a truck involved and it's probably out of county. Please let me know if you see it on craigslist or in real life. 2012 Volagi Liscio 55cm, mix of very used DA and Ultegra, FSA cranks, white on black with black aluminum wheels, serial # ends in 0036. My number is 831 For_Won_Nine 8956.

Thank you!

Sean Ardley
That sucks! "Road of Bones" is on my bucket list thanks to you. Hope you recover your bike.

You might have been better off starting a new thread with this instead of a post, it'll get lost in the conversation here quickly. Maybe a moderator could move it for you..
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