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Old 12-04-12, 22:13
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Sorry, no. The Ds have shown time and time again that they're willing to work with the Rs. They will fight for their position, of course, but they're also willing to compromise. Do we or do we not have a public option in the ACA? Remember why that is?

You're really not going to enjoy the next four years. That's a shame, but at least the rest of the country will.
You are right about that. Remember, I'm in Cali.
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Old 12-05-12, 13:52
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Detroit City Council Woman, JoAnn Watson, in chambers:

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"Our people in an overwhelming way supported the re-election of this president and there ought to be a quid pro quo and you ought to exercise leadership on that," said Watson. "Of course, not just that, but why not?"
Why not indeed.
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And all you who breathed a sigh of relief believed them too. Your hind sight is excellent.
Believed the polls that said Romney was *really* 5-6 points ahead, like that Unskewed guy, or the wishful thinking of **** Morris and even Very Serious People like George Will etc? No, we really didn't. You guys certainly did, though.

EDIT: but credit where credit is due.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/12...the-bench.html

buh-bye **** and Karl. A fitting end for you both.

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There is no way that she's not running. Of course things can change in the next 4 years, but I don't doubt for a moment that she'd win easily against any of the current expected R candidates, ie Rubio, Ryan, etc. Maybe Christie would give her a run.

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An ABC News/Washington Post poll showed 57 percent would back a Clinton run for the presidency, and only 37 percent would oppose one. Two-thirds of Americans have a favorable opinion of Clinton, and only 28 percent have a negative opinion. An even higher number, 68 percent, approve of her work as secretary of state...Clinton’s support is widespread: 59 percent of women, 69 percent of liberals, 58 percent of moderates, 74 percent of black voters and 64 percent of Latinos want her to run. She also gains majority support from every income and age group. Support is weaker among men, 45 percent of whom want her to run, and Jewish voters, who give her a narrow plurality of 47 percent. Conservatives were the only group to oppose a Clinton run, 34 percent to 62 percent.

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Well no wonder David Frum got run out of the conservative movement. He actually understands reality.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/03/opinio...rgy/index.html

Well we know this is true just from one of our own posters:

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Republicans Not Handling Election Results Well
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49% of GOP voters nationally say they think that ACORN stole the election for President Obama. We found that 52% of Republicans thought that ACORN stole the 2008 election for Obama, so this is a modest decline, but perhaps smaller than might have been expected given that ACORN doesn't exist anymore. http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/m...ults-well.html
Maybe we should be concerned about the IQ of the electorate after all.
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Democrats. One gear.

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While discussing the fiscal cliff on Current TV's "Viewpoint" tonight, Rep. Peter Welch (D-Vermont) told host Eliot Spitzer that he supports a tax on financial transactions that would be imposed when stocks are traded.

REP. WELCH: It is a good idea. This hypertrading -- that's about market speculation, it has nothing to do with liquidities in the market. It has nothing to do with making a market. You know, we need a strong financial sector, but we need one that is serviceable to a productive economy. We can't have a productive economy that is in service of Wall Street.

And the hypertrading is only bad for creating those markets and I think we should have a very small, fractional transaction tax that would then go and help pay for the bailout.

Maybe we should just nationalize Wall Street.


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Well no wonder David Frum got run out of the conservative movement. He actually understands reality.
Democrats. One gear.

Maybe we should just nationalize energy.

We have already solved this global problem in California. Done deal.
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Gas tax: On the table, but not in the conversation

Washington is abuzz with talk about the income tax — but Americans may not be aware there is another rate on the table.
Amid the fiscal cliff debate, there’s a revenue option that would re-examine the way roads and bridges have been funded over the past 50 years: the federal gas tax.
Not enough revenue coming in from fuel efficient cars.

Maybe we should just nationalize the auto industry.

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Not enough revenue coming in from fuel efficient cars.

Maybe we should just nationalize the auto industry.

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/1...86.html?hp=r10
Next thing you know they will come after my weapons.

What would determine the rate of the tax? How about a 5 cent across the board flat tax? That would not be a big problem and would fix a few things. There would have to be some type of stops in place that would not allow them to just make a increase any ole time. Like that would ever happen...
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