Originally Posted by The Hitch
Ughh if you are including his 12th in Pais Vasco ten Schleck got that in Pais Vasco as well last year, 11th in Amstel and 8th in Cali.
That on top of Liege and Tour de France.
And he usually also does worlds but noth last 2 years because it was a sprint).
But surprise surprise different standards for the Belgian.
Andy is partly excused because he can actually win the Tour and stages and get his face and name out there. Van den brouke can only manage a top 5 anonymously if enough people crash out, yet still chooses that over everything else.
He was actually much better placed until the time trial in Pais Vasco where he decided to not take risks because of the rain.
Andy only does the Tour and Ardennes and he's much more talented than JVDB. Andy is not excused because he's clearly under-performing given his massive talent.
JVDB has been in the top 5 in the Tour on 2 occasions, so I don't see why you need to insult him with "if enough people crash out". He can make it into the top 5 on any route no matter who's at the start line. And he actually attacked quite a bit in the mountains this year, so why are you calling it anonymously? Did you even watch the race or were you too far with your head up your ...?
Andy could've won multiple GTs already, but hasn't. I can't say the same about VDB2. Besides, he was pretty good in the Vuelta of 2011.
Andy Schleck has never finished a WC road race. Are you really going to use that as an argument? It's a lot harder to make it into the Belgian squad than the Luxembourg squad by the way.
And can I also point out JVDB was actually a GOOD DOMESTIQUE in the Ardennes for Gilbert in 2011? Or didn't you watch those races either? Considering you can't even type his name correctly, I'm not sure why you're participating in this discussion? Your knowledge about the subject is non-existing.
Before you get even angrier I'd also like to point out that I'm not a JVDB fan. I think he has too much of a focus on the Tour de France, but I also think Andy Schleck is much worse than him considering the amount of talent he has. If JVDB had Andy's talent, oh boy...
Andy did pretty much nothing this year and you can't blame that on injuries. His injury started at the Dauphiné. He could barely finish a race the months before that. Aren't you always arguing that results from 2009 are irrelevant by the way?
Ps: you do realize when I'm talking about the Ardennes classics that I also mean AGR right? So your AGR argument doesn't make much sense either as I included it in my post already.