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Old 12-08-12, 09:27
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I agree with Pistolero about Thomas. Really what has he done in a classic that is so spectacular? He may have the potential but it's not like he has shown it already. This also applies for Stannard by the way..... Sorry I just can't forget the "Hayman/Stannard/Thomas" should be protected riders on a cobblestone race in a team with Flecha and Hagen (to a smaller extent). There are some unbelievable ideas in this forum from time to time
lol, Hayman must have 10 P-R finishes better than EBH's best.
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Old 12-08-12, 09:32
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If both are 100% then Cancellara will 'beat Boonen' in RVV and Boonen will 'beat Cancellara' in PR. They will not necessarily win.
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This is confusing, because what pistrollero said was that thomas doesnt have any potential.
Now I'm confused too. Let's wait for April and see
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Old 12-08-12, 10:08
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lol, Hayman must have 10 P-R finishes better than EBH's best.
He also has never won a classic. EBH on the other hand has one at least. Still, I was refering to potential and if he sorts out his food problems, Hagen may be much better than Hayman also in Roubaix.
Hayman's best results in Roubaix are an 8th and a 10th place.

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Old 12-08-12, 10:28
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He also has never won a classic. EBH on the other hand has one at least. Still, I was refering to potential and if he sorts out his food problems, Hagen may be much better than Hayman also in Roubaix.
Hayman's best results in Roubaix are an 8th and a 10th place.
Yeh but you say that people were calling for Hayman to be a protected rider ahead of Hagen as though it is incorrect. People were actually saying that Hayman should not have been doing all the work in P-R (a race he has proven to be a reliable campaigner in) whilst EBH (who is yet to show anything in P-R) did none.
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Old 12-08-12, 11:04
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He also has never won a classic. EBH on the other hand has one at least. Still, I was refering to potential and if he sorts out his food problems, Hagen may be much better than Hayman also in Roubaix.
Hayman's best results in Roubaix are an 8th and a 10th place.
EBH shouldn't even do P-R imo, it doesn't suit him at all. He should do like Sagan and skip P-R to prepare for AGR instead. Unfortunately EBH has made P-R his main goal again though...
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This is confusing, because what pistrollero said was that thomas doesnt have any potential.
No I said he has never shown any potential for a race like Roubaix.

He only rode it once and he wasn't good at it, so how the hell do you see that as potential?

When I say "come back next year" I obviously mean come back later when he finally does something in a classic to deserve all the hype he's getting at this forum.

Because I can name a lot of younger cyclists with more potential than him in the classics. He's almost 27 years old already. At age 27 Boonen already won 4 Monuments, Gent-Wevelgem, the E3 Prijs Vlaanderen four times, a WC, the green jersey in the Tour and 6 stages.
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horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
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lol, Hayman must have 10 P-R finishes better than EBH's best.
Well, yes of course, EBH has started P-R two times, one in which he was 21 years old and had to give his bike to Hincapie...
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No I said he has never shown any potential for a race like Roubaix.

He only rode it once and he wasn't good at it, so how the hell do you see that as potential?

When I say "come back next year" I obviously mean come back later when he finally does something in a classic to deserve all the hype he's getting at this forum.

Because I can name a lot of younger cyclists with more potential than him in the classics. He's almost 27 years old already. At age 27 Boonen already won 4 Monuments, Gent-Wevelgem, the E3 Prijs Vlaanderen four times, a WC, the green jersey in the Tour and 6 stages.
He punctured 3 times in the roubaix he did. And made it to the finish. Consider that in that very race your beloved boonen didnt even manage that ,before you say g has no roubaix potential.
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Old 12-08-12, 16:24
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He punctured 3 times in the roubaix he did. And made it to the finish. Consider that in that very race your beloved boonen didnt even manage that ,before you say g has no roubaix potential.
There's a reason why inexperienced people puncture so much in Roubaix.

If you're good you can avoid all the bad parts on the road, as Boonen has said. In 2011 he was obviously not in his best shape and guess what? He had more bad luck in that year alone than all the years before combined. If you're in bad shape you'll pay less attention to the road hence your chances of getting a puncture increase. Roger de Vlaeminck has said something among those lines as well.

From 2002-2010 and again in 2012 Boonen almost never punctured, crashed or had a mechanical.

And he was third in his very first Roubaix unlike Geraint Thomas who punctured 3 times lol. Roubaix is probably one of the only races in the world where you can avoid most of the punctures by experience.

And do you really think Boonen cares about making it to the finish or not when he already lost the race? He's not going to keep on riding just to finish 35th.

By the way, are you implying that everyone that can finish Roubaix has the potential to win it? If so: .
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horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
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