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Firstly,the UCI needs to confirm the WT license of Saxo-Tinkoff,then they need to win a lot of races and to accumulate points.Do you know Contador points are still discounted because of that UCI ruling which says that after a doping suspension,the points of that rider are discounted from the team total.So Kreuziger or Nick Roche need points in 2013 to maintain the team in WT(assuming that this team gets the license and not the two sprinters team).
kreuziger will be able to do it very well in the ardennes, PN or TA etc. And Roche can perhaps loo for a top 10 in the Vuelta (?). Majka will probably go for an top 10 in the giro and Bennati can get a couple of points here and there. Does not loo that bad for the team really
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Do you know Contador points are still discounted because of that UCI ruling which says that after a doping suspension,the points of that rider are discounted from the team total.So Kreuziger or Nick Roche need points in 2013 to maintain the team in WT(assuming that this team gets the license and not the two sprinters team).
Yes I'm aware of the Contador points situation thank you very much but I don't necessarily think that should stop the team - not just Alberto - from winning regarless if their WT or not imo and the post bellow addresses my point...

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kreuziger will be able to do it very well in the ardennes, PN or TA etc. And Roche can perhaps loo for a top 10 in the Vuelta (?). Majka will probably go for an top 10 in the giro and Bennati can get a couple of points here and there. Does not loo that bad for the team really
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Firstly,the UCI needs to confirm the WT license of Saxo-Tinkoff,then they need to win a lot of races and to accumulate points.Do you know Contador points are still discounted because of that UCI ruling which says that after a doping suspension,the points of that rider are discounted from the team total.So Kreuziger or Nick Roche need points in 2013 to maintain the team in WT(assuming that this team gets the license and not the two sprinters team).
Also Breschel should score points on the cobbles, and Rogers will score a decent amount of points too. Their main problem will be that contador usually goes for the win in the races he starts in - they might wanna reverse that for some races.

Even if they dont get WT license this year (and I actually think its likely that they wont) they will be back in the WT next year, cos they will get a lot of invites to WT races this season.
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Also Breschel should score points on the cobbles, and Rogers will score a decent amount of points too. Their main problem will be that contador usually goes for the win in the races he starts in - they might wanna reverse that for some races.

Even if they dont get WT license this year (and I actually think its likely that they wont) they will be back in the WT next year, cos they will get a lot of invites to WT races this season.
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neh, tey can go into tour de Basque with Kreuziger and AC for example and let Kreuziger fight for his own chances while Ac attacks in the bottom of the last climb and wins with 10 minutes
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Roger's signing for Saxo was totally unexpected.

Bertie just needs to turn up in July and avoid a crash, to win.
Rogers will drop other contenders with his pull or what?
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neh, tey can go into tour de Basque with Kreuziger and AC for example and let Kreuziger fight for his own chances while Ac attacks in the bottom of the last climb and wins with 10 minutes
Watching teams try some tactical things like that in races like PV could be quite fun. Usually they are just leadershowdown fests on last climb and more often tt fests.
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Rogers will drop other contenders with his pull or what?
Only Andy

On a serious note, the team arouns Contador has been too weak at Saxo. He doesnt need strong helpers to pull him to the finish line like Wiggings. He doesnt need his team to pull at a ceratin mediocre watt level all the way, he needs a strong team to keep him safe and well and then pull imba hard on the last climb(s) so that the other contenders lose all or nearly all of their helpers before he launches his own attack dropping all but Andy (who he will then crush on the TTs).
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On a serious note, the team arouns Contador has been too weak at Saxo. He doesnt need strong helpers to pull him to the finish line like Wiggings. He doesnt need his team to pull at a ceratin mediocre watt level all the way, he needs a strong team to keep him safe and well and then pull imba hard on the last climb(s) so that the other contenders lose all or nearly all of their helpers before he launches his own attack dropping all but Andy (who he will then crush on the TTs).
What? he will also drop Andy No just kidding

I do miss the days when Alberto could drop everyone..
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