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Prior to Cav's emergence all we had was Robert Millar.
And Simpson yeah? And there were almost-UKers in Roche and co.
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And Simpson yeah? And there were almost-UKers in Roche and co.
Yeah this is by far the UK's purple patch when it comes to road racing.
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...no real UK riders worth a pinch of cortisone to write home about for some time now.
Swift, JTL, Stannard, Rowe, Blythe, Cummings?

That's not a bad crop, given the difficulties that aspiring UK roadies face ie the difficulty in arranging a road race in the UK and language barriers for young lads trying their hand on the continent.
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Swift, JTL, Stannard, Rowe, Blythe, Cummings?

That's not a bad crop, given the difficulties that aspiring UK roadies face ie the difficulty in arranging a road race in the UK and language barriers for young lads trying their hand on the continent.
Come on man, you seriously are clutching at straws there man.

JTL has only just started poking his head over the parapet in the last 18months, since then he was riding in a poor domestic calender.

The rest, what have the REALLY done in Europe to catch the media in the Uk? Errr None.

Even when Cav was winning year in year out on the Champs the UK media didnt batter an eye lid! The main sports news when he won the WC was something about a 0-0 draw in wendyball!
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Come on man, you seriously are clutching at straws there man.

JTL has only just started poking his head over the parapet in the last 18months, since then he was riding in a poor domestic calender.

The rest, what have the REALLY done in Europe to catch the media in the Uk? Errr None.

Even when Cav was winning year in year out on the Champs the UK media didnt batter an eye lid! The main sports news when he won the WC was something about a 0-0 draw in wendyball!
Exaggeration about Cav. Don't forget the year he won the WC he was also BBC Sports Personality of the Year. UK media love him because he is a bit mouthy - and of course, a proven winner. So that's 2 cycling SPOTYs in four years; Wiggins may make it 3 in 5 (may not, as a good year for GB sport)
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Exaggeration about Cav. Don't forget the year he won the WC he was also BBC Sports Personality of the Year. UK media love him because he is a bit mouthy - and of course, a proven winner. So that's 2 cycling SPOTYs in four years; Wiggins may make it 3 in 5 (may not, as a good year for GB sport)
Is it exaggeration? I dont think so. He wasnt main sports news on ANY BBC Channel, 5Live OR the main evening news.

Its taken YEARS to have cycling on the main pages of the papers in the UK, YEARS.

He got SPOTY because us cycling fans bombareded it, lets be honest, its a bit of a white elephant SPOTY, having Phil 'The power' Taylor beat him to a 'podium' place the previous year.
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Come on man, you seriously are clutching at straws there man.

JTL has only just started poking his head over the parapet in the last 18months, since then he was riding in a poor domestic calender.

The rest, what have the REALLY done in Europe to catch the media in the Uk? Errr None.
Dear Wiggo's point was that the UK hasn't produced any road riders recently, not that the UK hadn't produced any road riders with a high media profile. The guys I mentioned are all decent continental pros at worst. Even if you take out Wiggo and Froome, there's more than enough UK roadies to form a decent squad a World Champs or Olympic level.

To gain a high media profile in the UK, you need to be performing at an exceptionally high level (Wiggo, Froome, Cav type performances). This says more about the UK media than the quality of the riders.

Reading through a couple of episodes of Cycling Weekly will highlight the same names I did, so it's not like cycling is completely inaccessible to a new fan with even the slightest amount of determination to find out what's going on.
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Thats an iteresting one.

Take out Froome, Cav, Wiggo & Millar and what squad would you make?

One for the main board I suppose.
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Remember in the mid to late 90s when all we had was CB winning the prologue and crashing/fading as soon as the inclines went up
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Dear Wiggo's point was that the UK hasn't produced any road riders recently, not that the UK hadn't produced any road riders with a high media profile.
Not really. Steele VonHoff was racing in Australia as a conti rider and is now on Garmin's team. Compared to Evans he's nowhere.

Wiggins is an order of magnitude above all those guys thanks to the last few years. The people watching the Tour are only doing so for Wiggins and Froome - no other UK rider is doing anything, and that's my point, as initiated by MartinGT. Those guys you mention are not getting people watching TV, where the money in pro cycling is made.
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