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Old 12-10-12, 12:56
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Yeah but Hesjedal? Come on.
In Hesjadel's defense, he showed potential for grand tour success in 2010 finishing top 10 of the Tour gc and having an impressive showing on the Tourmalet stage, I believe finishing in the top 5. He crashed out of the Tour in 2011, missing an opportunity to follow up on his fine showing and then in 2012 his Giro was to be followed by a Tour, going into which he was feeling even stronger than at the Giro. Additionally coming from a mountain biking background his career trajectory could be compared to Evans in that he may not reach his peak until later.
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In Hesjadel's defense, he showed potential for grand tour success in 2010 finishing top 10 of the Tour gc and having an impressive showing on the Tourmalet stage, I believe finishing in the top 5. He crashed out of the Tour in 2011, missing an opportunity to follow up on his fine showing and then in 2012 his Giro was to be followed by a Tour, going into which he was feeling even stronger than at the Giro. Additionally coming from a mountain biking background his career trajectory could be compared to Evans in that he may not reach his peak until later.
He has improved and he rode very well in the Giro but would he make the top five in next year's Tour ? He's smart enough to target the Giro instead where I think he will be the biggest danger to Wiggins unless Rodriguez can continue to improve.
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it's so much bs that people claim the giro isn't too take serious becaus eof hesjedal. what were these people thinking after the 2007 tour with contador, soler and "rasmussen" being the strongest all of a sudden
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Additionally coming from a mountain biking background his career trajectory could be compared to Evans in that he may not reach his peak until later.
This isnt true. With 24 years Cadel Evans won the Tour of Austria and the Brixia Tour. With 25 he was the pink jersey of the Giro D'Italia before the last mountain stage of the race. He lost 17 minutes in that last stage and even finished out of the top10 but he was the top favourite to win that Giro D'italia. So who was Hesjedal with 24, 25, 26, 27 and 28 years compared with Evans?
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Ryo Hazuki;1090799]it's so much bs that people claim the giro isn't too take serious becaus eof hesjedal. what were these people thinking after the 2007 tour with contador, soler and "rasmussen" being the strongest all of a sudden
Are you comparing the most impressive GT of the last 5 years with the Giro D'Italia of 2012?
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This isnt true. With 24 years Cadel Evans won the Tour of Austria and the Brixia Tour. With 25 he was the pink jersey of the Giro D'Italia before the last mountain stage of the race. He lost 17 minutes in that last stage and even finished out of the top10 but he was the top favourite to win that Giro D'italia. So who was Hesjedal with 24, 25, 26, 27 and 28 years compared with Evans?
You are so right. This was clearly Evans peak. Everything he has done since then - winning the tour coming 2nd twice, podium.of.vuelta , fw , world championship, etc was just Evans going downhill from the peak that won him the braxia tour and ostriech rundfahrt.
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This isnt true. With 24 years Cadel Evans won the Tour of Austria and the Brixia Tour. With 25 he was the pink jersey of the Giro D'Italia before the last mountain stage of the race. He lost 17 minutes in that last stage and even finished out of the top10 but he was the top favourite to win that Giro D'italia. So who was Hesjedal with 24, 25, 26, 27 and 28 years compared with Evans?
After that he was the posterchild for unrealized potential, an almost ran in the big events that he couldn't win until he was in his 30's. I never said that their career trajectories were identical, only that Hesjedal could potentially reach his best results later in his career, similar to Evans. Evans never came close to the near Giro success until later in his career. Part of that of course could be attributed to bad luck with injuries and politics of the teams that he chose to ride for (T-Mobile) but still when he was healthy and riding for himself he only reached his best results in his 30's as I stated previously.
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Cadel Evans always demonstrated have the talent. Ryder Hesjedal never did nothing until 28 years. Their peaks have been later in their careers. But the both trajectories arent similar.

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Are you comparing the most embarrassing GT of the last 5 years with the Giro D'Italia of 2012?
Corrected you there.

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