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Old 12-10-12, 20:38
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Porte, Shleck, Froome, TJVG, Dennis and Quintana are my options- though the first 3 are quite old.

Dombrowski, Aru and Boswell too, though not all of them can.
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Old 12-10-12, 20:52
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You have to realize that someone who started watching cycling in July 2011 will only have seen Contador crack on Galibier, fail to drop Levi in San Luis and lose mountain after mountain to Purito at the VUelta. In that same time he has seen Froome 2nd the Vuelta and win a stage while domestiquing, and be the best climbr in a Tour de France.

So its not that surprising he thinks Froome is Contadors equal in climbing. Hell he actually deep inside likely thinks that Froome is significantly better at climbing but is afraid to say it that way because these Contador fanboys, who (god knows why) seem to think Contador is this great climber who can drop anyone, will call him an idiot.
He won that stage after Angrilu, where Sky finally decided to ride for him.

He basically can, except for maybe Andy but he dropped him stage 4 and stage 16 of the 2011 TDF. He did drop Levi, Levi won because of the ITT. He does not have as good a sprint as JROD/ he was recovering his form.
I do agree that Contador can be dropped/ others can challenge him but some of your arguments exclude the fact all cyclists can have bad days.
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The Grand Boucle wasn't just Europe's for the taking.

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"Has Porte ever dropped Nibali in any mountain?"
D&C "He will soon......"
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Old 12-10-12, 21:08
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Would love it to be Pinot. The French need it. As a less obvious choise I Thora Majka into the mix. But hopefully we Will see severo strong contenders
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Old 12-10-12, 21:11
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Jurgen Van den Broeck will develop the Alpha Dog mentality to befit his training regime, and will crush the competition. There will be no giving away of stages and no random breakaways winning mountain stages.
Only Jurgen and his sidekick Vanendert.
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Cadel Evans always demonstrated have the talent. Ryder Hesjedal never did nothing until 28 years. Their peaks have been later in their careers. But the both trajectories arent similar.
hesjedal in fact rode very well back in 2006 vuelta, but has been injured mostly and when younger he was a professional mtb rider
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Old 12-10-12, 21:53
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***** Pinot, Quintana, Dombrowski, Froome
**** Van Garderen, Talansky, Kelderman
*** Ospina, Chaves, Masnada, Aru, Andy Schleck
** Dennis, Meyer, Elissonde, Nibali, Henao, Betancur
* Ulissi, Moser, Majka, Bardet, Landa..

Something like this will be the GT's hierarchies after Contador domination.

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Old 12-10-12, 22:51
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Andy Schleck worse than Talansky Van Garderen and Kelderman?

Man you really do live in fantasy land.
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Andy Schleck worse than Talansky Van Garderen and Kelderman?

Man you really do live in fantasy land.
Why not? He can improve and he was good with the U23 ranks.

And he won the U23 jersey in the Dauphiné, that's like a mini-Tour.

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Old 12-10-12, 22:55
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Andy Schleck worse than Talansky Van Garderen and Kelderman?

Man you really do live in fantasy land.
Gt's have things called TT'S.
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He has improved and he rode very well in the Giro but would he make the top five in next year's Tour ? He's smart enough to target the Giro instead where I think he will be the biggest danger to Wiggins unless Rodriguez can continue to improve.
I don't see why he wouldn't be able to make the top 5 at the Tour. His attributes are rounded enough that he should be able to hold his own in any of the disciplines versus his rivals. We also can't simply attribute his desire to ride the Giro in 2013 to his finding it more "winnable" for than the Tour. He could be feeling an obligation to defend his Giro title and he just may have found an appreciation for the Giro after winning it.
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