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Old 12-11-12, 22:26
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Rasch, for some reason he's good enough for Sky. Also some of those Italians and Eastern Europeans at Lampre and Liquigas. I can't really keep them apart. Longo Borghini, Dall'antonia, Da Dalto, Bono, Righi, Kostyuk, they must all have some unique ability which gets them a contract.
Or can someone explain to me why they're so good in their respective teams? I tend to forget about domestiques and their abilities when they never get results.
I think Bono once said something like: "I'm an all rounder. I go slow in all kind of terrains.".
Righi I don't really know but I remember this result: http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen...p?raceid=17396

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Rasch, for some reason he's good enough for Sky. Also some of those Italians and Eastern Europeans at Lampre and Liquigas. I can't really keep them apart. Longo Borghini, Dall'antonia, Da Dalto, Bono, Righi, Kostyuk, they must all have some unique ability which gets them a contract.
Or can someone explain to me why they're so good in their respective teams? I tend to forget about domestiques and their abilities when they never get results.
I rate Tiziano dall'Antonia highly.
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as an example i give bert grabsch, whom next year will resume his usual job on the htc days. he used to pace the peloton for like the first 100k each day( flat stages only ofc) and keep the the break in check on his own before pulling to the side and letting the rest of the team finish up the job.

it's not a pretty job and it doesn't make the headlines of the news but some1 has to do it, and since big bert with his hilariously gigantic gears could do it on his own i am pretty sure he got a nice paycheck too boost his moral for the next day of 3 hours of riding at the front.
Txente García, who retired at 2011, is the gold standard of modern domestiquing. Christian Meier once tweeted excitedly about getting to share péloton-pacing duties with him for two hours and getting a bit star-struck, saying he'd love to grow to be half the domestique that Txente is. In Valverde's Vuelta win, pretty much every time a stage comes on to the air, Txente leads the péloton and carries them everywhere on the flats.
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To be fair, Argos Shimano were not at all big races (18 wildcards out of the 28, and not all of those events were sprinter friendly) so the true judgement of Kittel's abilities will be at the end of 2013. He also beat some good sprinters at Schjeldeprijs and Oman.
It's a joke that we get censored for saying innocuous things like *****, ****stan and so on, and yet Scheldeprijs isn't in the word filter. I find it far more offensive than anything Wiggins called fans during the Tour, that's for sure.
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Vincent Jerome, Danny Pate, Julian Dean comes to my mind

and Noval is NOT an average team mate, he's just some friend of Contador who likes to ride a bike

Edit: I'd say Grabsch is a pretty good domestique, not an average one
When a guy like Contador wants to be on your team, just keeping him happy enough to want to stay is enough reason to justify letting him have a friend or two there, and if they bring a little extra to the team from a cycling perspective that's just bonus. Just like Joaquín Novoa at Cervélo with Sastre, Mads Kaggestad following Hushovd around and Ardila and Kozontchuk with Menchov.
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Well, Bono won a stage in the vuelta 10' i think (or 11'?) So he must have dome qualities, but i agree, its not very often that vi get to see it or hear about it.
Wasn't it a Eneco Tour stage last year?
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Oh. The mythic french GT racer Benoit Vaugrenard Michael Schär. Remi Pauriol...
Schär is a very good rider, similar to Burghardt. Certainly necessary for the team.
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Vincent Jerome, Danny Pate, Julian Dean comes to my mind

Edit: I'd say Grabsch is a pretty good domestique, not an average one
Same with the Grabsch part- he has been a WC. I don't know enough about Jerome, Pate got selected to ride the TDF in 2011 and rode very well and Julian Dean has been able to pick up good wins and has supported his sprinters. This year he was injured for most of it and is quite old but he should still be fine.
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Inigo Cuesta was another solid, no nonsense dom who did his job well for years without ever really being high profile. Similar to guys like Garcia and Grabsch, no shying away from what needed to be done.
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Wasn't it a Eneco Tour stage last year?
Correct, my bad. But he also won a stage in TA and in tour de romandie in 2007.
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I think Bono once said something like: "I'm an all rounder. I go slow in all kind of terrains.".
That's a great quote.
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