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Your colonial mercenary wont win either (though his chances are much better than Wiggo - podium for sure)
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Yes, seriously.
That very Vuelta showed that Cobo is stronger than Froome too. So will you bet upon him next year?


And the Tour 2011 showed that Voeckler can beat Contador. Why is everyone saying next Tour will be between Froome and Contador. It'll be between Cobo and Voeckler!
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And the Tour 2011 showed that Voeckler can beat Contador. Why is everyone saying next Tour will be between Froome and Contador. It'll be between Cobo and Voeckler!
Not sure if biopass will get your parable. Good one!
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That very Vuelta showed that Cobo is stronger than Froome too. So will you bet upon him next year?


And the Tour 2011 showed that Voeckler can beat Contador. Why is everyone saying next Tour will be between Froome and Contador. It'll be between Cobo and Voeckler!
For your information, Wiggins, unlike Cobo, has continued to progress after the Vuelta 2011. Including another win over Nibbles at the Tour.

But honestly, can anyone tell why it is dumb by Wiggins that he wants to defend his tour title? Can anyone blaim him for saying that?

Who is it thats gonna make him suffer in the Giro 2013? It aint Nibbles for sure, the last two GT clashes between them has showed that.
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For your information, Wiggins, unlike Cobo, has continued to progress after the Vuelta 2011. Including another win over Nibbles at the Tour.
FYI Nibali was clearly off-form during that Vuelta (perhaps you noticed that he got beaten even by Monfort). So that race didn't show anything, except the fact that Wiggins doesn't need to be at 100% to beat an off-form Nibbles.
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But honestly, can anyone tell why it is dumb by Wiggins that he wants to defend his tour title? Can anyone blaim him for saying that?

Who is it thats gonna make him suffer in the Giro 2013? It aint Nibbles for sure, the last two GT clashes between them has showed that.
I do believe that if he race the Giro in top form he'll win it. As simple as that. BUT I'm not so sure he could win it while not in shape. The Giro features harder stages and less time trials than the only GT Wiggo has won.
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I do believe that if he race the Giro in top form he'll win it. As simple as that. BUT I'm not so sure he could win it while not in shape. The Giro features harder stages and less time trials than the only GT Wiggo has won.
Giro '13 will be much harder to control with a train concept compared to TdF '12. There are 10+ stages where GC riders can gain time/bonus secs in the Giro. Naturally Wiggins opposition must also be sharp to make it fun, but still.
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In soccer (which is a team sport) when Messi scores 3 goals and wins the match for Barcelona, it isn't (only) Messi who won it is Barcelona.

In cycling (which isn't a team sport) When Contador won the tour, he is the winner of the tour and his team mates (in 09 Armstrong amongst others) didn't win the tour.
Cycling is a sport unlike others where individual can only win if they are part of a team. No single rider can ever enter a race and if the best rider in the world is part of a low team he may not be able to participate in some major events. Why compare cycling to other sport in order to define it?
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But honestly, can anyone tell why it is dumb by Wiggins that he wants to defend his tour title? Can anyone blaim him for saying that?

Who is it thats gonna make him suffer in the Giro 2013? It aint Nibbles for sure, the last two GT clashes between them has showed that.
IMO its dumb because he is once again sidelining Froome and putting Froomes schedule and preparation in doubt, because he is going back on his word that Froome could be leader in the Tour, and because he won't have nearly as much chance to win the 2013 tour as he would at the Giro.

Nibali, Purito, Sanchez, Pellizotti, Pozzovivo, and whichever Colombians show up I could see making Wiggo suffer. Plus as others said, it will be a harder race to control.
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