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Old 12-14-12, 00:23
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But Tiernan-Locke isn't coming out of nowhere. When he was 18 he was riding for GB u23s at the Worlds, around about the same time as Dan Martin (another one who didn't come through the track program). He had been identified as a talent (something BC have been better at since they had money) and was sent for successful time at a French amateur team and was interesting the French pro teams. Then he got ill and went to Uni. Then he came back on John Herety's team (his old GB boss).
Simple. It's that easy.

All ProTour cyclists at a minimum were good at U23. There are 100's of French riders riding in their amatuter teams.

What's makes Froome II so special?

These breakthrough British riders appear to get "ill", disappear, then come back transformed into Indurian.

What's in the Ale over there in Blighty?
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Old 12-14-12, 00:34
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Simple. It's that easy.

All ProTour cyclists at a minimum were good at U23. There are 100's of French riders riding in their amatuter teams.

What's makes Froome II so special?

These breakthrough British riders appear to get "ill", disappear, then come back transformed into Indurian.

What's in the Ale over there in Blighty?
Froome is a late developer.
Suddenly the power flows to the legs at unseen rates.
Shreds fat and feels like a bird.
It really can happen to anybody.
Only Lucozade and large portions of cornflakes.
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Old 12-14-12, 00:34
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That was still years ago, and he went from being a solid rider accumulating fairly good results in 2.2 races and getting an occasional win from a breakaway, to a strong rider beating much stronger fields by being the class of the field.
What was the parcours of these 2.2 races? Surely that's important to know before judging. Or are all races exactly the same? He's a rider who excels on short climbs - unproven at the other stuff as far as I can see. Without that he's not likely to win.

As he moved up the ranks he got on to better teams and had more choice of races, thereby being able to pick ones that suit him. Put Rodriguez in a fairly flat 2.2 race (maybe with time trials) and he's not going to win either.

Your recent points on this thread seem to rely on all races being the same and all riders racing the same in those races.

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Old 12-14-12, 00:35
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On the calendar note British Cycling established an academy in Tuscany run by Max Sciandri and Rod Ellingworth and I assume the riders there (Cav, Thomas, Stannard, Swift, Kennaugh I could go on) competed on the Italian domestic calender.
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Old 12-14-12, 00:46
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Froome is a late developer.
Suddenly the power flows to the legs at unseen rates.
Shreds fat and feels like a bird.
It really can happen to anybody.
Only Lucozade and large portions of cornflakes.
Froome and Froome II (JTL) didn't know they were Tour potential until British Cycling told them.

Then they became good. Late bloomers.

Cancellera should learn from these two. He should try and lose weight to gain power.
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Old 12-14-12, 00:49
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Froome and Froome II (JTL) didn't know they were Tour potential until British Cycling told them.

Then they became good. Late bloomers.

Cancellera should learn from these two. He should try and lose weight to gain power.
Sky actually went after Cancellara before he signed with Leopard Trek.

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Old 12-14-12, 00:54
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Sky actually went after Cancellara before he signed with Leopard Trek.
Sky should have bought him, broke him apart, to create RoboFroome III.
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Old 12-14-12, 01:09
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Froome and Froome II (JTL) didn't know they were Tour potential until British Cycling told them.

Then they became good. Late bloomers.

Cancellera should learn from these two. He should try and lose weight to gain power.
Olympic TT.

Tony Martin laying dead against the fence simply not able to talk to anybody after the race. Silver by barely managing to beat Froome.

Froome coming in with little sweat, not needing water and ready to talk to the press while his eyes are on the clock checking lessor competitors..

Superior talent.
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Old 12-14-12, 01:26
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Which PEDs minimise perspiration?
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Old 12-14-12, 01:30
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Which PEDs minimise perspiration?
None, the man was on a diet of water and bread. Pure talent.
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