Wiggins Discussion thread. - Page 205 - CyclingNews Forum

Go Back   CyclingNews Forum > Road > Professional road racing

Professional road racing A place to discuss all things related to current professional road races. Here, you can also touch on the latest news relating to professional road racing. A doping discussion free forum.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #2041  
Old 12-14-12, 16:30
del1962 del1962 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 3,217
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferminal View Post
Do I need to repeat myself?

So far as a superdom in GTs, he's 0-1.
Did he not do work for Froome in 2011 vuelta when Froome became leader, not sure my memory is not great, but I thought he did
Reply With Quote
  #2042  
Old 12-14-12, 16:36
The Hitch's Avatar
The Hitch The Hitch is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: London.
Posts: 22,781
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by del1962 View Post
Did he not do work for Froome in 2011 vuelta when Froome became leader, not sure my memory is not great, but I thought he did
When froome became race leader he had to.continue to work for wiggins. It was only with 1 gc stage remaining that froome was allowed to be team leader and since that was the uphill sprint to pena cabarga i don't recall if wiggins actually had to do any work.
__________________
The Hitch: Winner 2013 Vuelta cq game. Winner, Velorooms prediction game 2012, 2013 (still undefeated). Currently 2nd all time cq rankings.
Quote:
Originally Posted by pre 2009 wiggins
If there's a 1% suspicion or doubt that a team is working with certain doctors, then they shouldn't be invited to the Tour de France - as simple as that.
journalist with integrity.
Reply With Quote
  #2043  
Old 12-14-12, 16:55
al_pacino al_pacino is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 270
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hitch View Post
When froome became race leader he had to.continue to work for wiggins. It was only with 1 gc stage remaining that froome was allowed to be team leader and since that was the uphill sprint to pena cabarga i don't recall if wiggins actually had to do any work.
Wiggins definitely did a pull on the stage Anton won.
Reply With Quote
  #2044  
Old 12-14-12, 17:15
The Hitch's Avatar
The Hitch The Hitch is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: London.
Posts: 22,781
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by al_pacino View Post
Wiggins definitely did a pull on the stage Anton won.
Yeah but that wasnt really a gc stage was it?



23 riders finished together and thats despite Froomes attempts to make it count.
__________________
The Hitch: Winner 2013 Vuelta cq game. Winner, Velorooms prediction game 2012, 2013 (still undefeated). Currently 2nd all time cq rankings.
Quote:
Originally Posted by pre 2009 wiggins
If there's a 1% suspicion or doubt that a team is working with certain doctors, then they shouldn't be invited to the Tour de France - as simple as that.
journalist with integrity.
Reply With Quote
  #2045  
Old 12-14-12, 19:16
biopass biopass is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 271
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Afrank View Post
Yes, Froome will prepare for whichever GT they send him to and try to be in form for it. But if Wiggins is given leadership over him then he won't be supported as much. As an example: this year Froome flatted on a stage (I forget which stage) and he lost something like 2:00 minutes. If Sky had sent some people back for him, he probably wouldn't have lost nearly as much time. But they didn't because they had to stay with the leader of the team, Wiggins. Froome wants to win the Tour and do so with the full support of the team.
This is Froome we're talking about, not Wiggins. He can, unlike Wiggins TT-look-a-like-style of a climbing, jump around with Baby Schleck and Contador if he wants to. So he wont need the same support as Wiggins in order to get a good finish in the HC Climbs.
Reply With Quote
  #2046  
Old 12-14-12, 20:01
Afrank's Avatar
Afrank Afrank is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Oregon
Posts: 8,272
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by biopass View Post
This is Froome we're talking about, not Wiggins. He can, unlike Wiggins TT-look-a-like-style of a climbing, jump around with Baby Schleck and Contador if he wants to. So he wont need the same support as Wiggins in order to get a good finish in the HC Climbs.
True, but if he does get into trouble, he will want the most of the team to get back to him and help him to make sure he doesn't lose any time. And if Wiggins is leader he may not get all the help he needs to ensure that.
__________________
Be the Goat

Fabio Aru: "si muore sulla bici"
Reply With Quote
  #2047  
Old 12-14-12, 22:00
dolophonic's Avatar
dolophonic dolophonic is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 584
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by biopass View Post
This is Froome we're talking about, not Wiggins. He can, unlike Wiggins TT-look-a-like-style of a climbing, jump around with Baby Schleck and Contador if he wants to. So he wont need the same support as Wiggins in order to get a good finish in the HC Climbs.
Really.. he did not look like he could hang that well at the Vuelta.. oh he was tired.
Reply With Quote
  #2048  
Old 12-15-12, 01:41
biopass biopass is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 271
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Afrank View Post
True, but if he does get into trouble, he will want the most of the team to get back to him and help him to make sure he doesn't lose any time. And if Wiggins is leader he may not get all the help he needs to ensure that.
Team help or not. The way i see it, any contender for the GC who gets into trouble can forget about the overall victory the moment they crack. That goes for everyone who dreams about winning the race.
Reply With Quote
  #2049  
Old 12-15-12, 02:35
Afrank's Avatar
Afrank Afrank is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Oregon
Posts: 8,272
Default

And Wiggo is going to be the first one to crack. I predict Wiggo riding in with the sprinters on Ax-3, after one attack from Contador. Froome's going to last a lot longer than Wiggo will. I was talking more about trouble in terms of mechanical's by the way.
__________________
Be the Goat

Fabio Aru: "si muore sulla bici"
Reply With Quote
  #2050  
Old 12-15-12, 02:55
hrotha's Avatar
hrotha hrotha is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 12,237
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by biopass View Post
Team help or not. The way i see it, any contender for the GC who gets into trouble can forget about the overall victory the moment they crack. That goes for everyone who dreams about winning the race.
There's other ways to get in trouble other than cracking. Being caught off your guard in a tactical manoeuvre, having a mechanical, crashing, etc.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 04:21.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2006 - 2009 Future Publishing Limited. All rights reserved. Future Publishing Limited is part of the Future plc group. Future Publishing Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company registration number 2008885 whose registered office is at Beauford Court 30 Monmouth Street Bath, UK BA1 2BW England.