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Old 10-19-12, 13:17
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italians are always aggressive in this but history teaches us that in the end they usually have nothing
They got valverde in the end which is better than the Spanish
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Old 10-19-12, 13:21
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Oxygen vector doping is so much of an advantage in cycling, that it does make everything else seem marginal. EPO and blood doping have simply got to go. Got to be seen to be gone, and have got to stay gone.

If 100 of the current pros must be suspended for a change to occur then thats what must happen. This rot has gone on for far too long. We are at a historic moment, either the fallout (from Lance, this investigation and others) will change cycling forever, or it will cease to exist in anything like its current form.

Ferrari and his ilk need some quality jail time. If tax evasion works, nail them on that.
I wonder if Lance's speach on Friday will be the beginning of admission or the same defiance. Armstrong telling all could be very revealing not only about the sport in Europe, but on American soil. I remember Armstrong as being the super star of the American program. He did not even have to compete in the 1992 Olympic Trials to make the team. I have little doubt about some of the very negative aspects of the person he became, but the mania and money around his super stardom was not the act of one man.

If it were up to me, I would not stop at the UCI.
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Old 10-19-12, 13:27
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The fallout will be:

- nobody gets arrested; teams distance themselves from some named riders
- Lampre pulls out of the sport
- Acqua & Sapone pulls out - oh wait
- Liqui - oh wait
- Savio shrugs, Androni waits for some of the disgraced riders to be turfed by their teams so he can hire them
- Vino shrugs, Astana becomes the biggest team in the peloton when every other major sponsor drops out
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Old 10-19-12, 13:28
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They got valverde in the end which is better than the Spanish
I wasn't comparing to the spanish. they got valverde and that is all they ever got
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Old 10-19-12, 13:46
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No implications to UCI?
No money trail?
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Old 10-19-12, 14:01
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No implications to UCI?
No money trail?
So La Gazetta reports the Ferrari material.

Interesting to also see La Gazetta report that UCI will respond to USADA on Monday. Why La Gazetta the origin of this press release?
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Old 10-21-12, 14:49
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No implications to UCI?
No money trail?
Below, you can find a collection of press documents and informations from the swiss companies register:
http://imageshack.us/a/img88/593/resumee.png
http://www.pdf-archive.com/2012/10/2...a-dei-miti.pdf

Do u want to know about Uci, doping, Ferrari, Marc Biver, Laurent Magne, IMG, Ian Todd ... Rocco Cattaneo, Rocco Taminelli ... Centre Mondial du Cyclisme (with Ian T Todd IMG in the board).
Why Rocco Taminelli belongs to Arbitrate and Discipline Committees of the Uci?
http://www.ciclopassione.com/t18-il-...uci-di-mcquaid

It's time to free Uci and time to restore true cycling !!!
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Old 10-21-12, 15:33
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I wasn't comparing to the spanish. they got valverde and that is all they ever got
They exposed Ferarri. They appear to be catching him for good this time.

That the Italian courts are a joke is not the fault of CONI.
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Bump.

Anyone beginning to think Padua investigation has flopped?

Howman expected more riders an doctors to be named in December.

Instead, we see a trickle of 3 month bans for working with Ferrari, who is again insisting he didn't dope Armstrong.
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The Ferrari. The doctor and boots intercepted in the camper: "A bag, and vincevi"

Took me a while to figure that one out...scarponi = hiking/ski boots.
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