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Old 12-14-12, 14:37
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Should've started in Ieper.
Or Verdun, a TdF start in France is becoming very rare nowadays. Even Corsica could be considered a foreign Grand depart.
They just have to put in a Roubaix stage, the 2010 Tour wouldn't have been the same without them.
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Old 12-15-12, 17:09
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In other news, big interview with Gesink in the Volkskrant, with some newsworthy quotes..

It appears he didn't want to ride the Tour 2012 at first, he wanted to try Giro/Vuelta, but the Rabobank more or less pressured/convinced him into going to the Tour.
He also said he thinks the decision from Rabobank to stop is completely wrong and the reason is stupid. He says they are being punished for something that happened years ago and also says the culture has changed a lot in recent years. He also said he never had any 'medical' support and they can control him all they want (then again, Armstrong said so as well lol).

He also says what Armstrong did was not top sport but top logistics and had more to do with maffia practices than with cycling. He says in the winter months he often thought "against what kind of guys have I ridden all these years and did it hurt my palmares, thinking of Rebellin (who beat him in PN) Mosquera, Valverde ... "
He also says he suspects some other riders whos performances he doesn't believe, but says he won't call them out with no proof ("they could also say, what a strange rider that Gesink, winning California after a broken leg, could also be suspected).
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Great to see that Porte has rediscovered his 2010/11 climbing form. Hope he can keep it for the rest of the Tour and year.
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Old 12-15-12, 17:15
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In other news, big interview with Gesink in the Volkskrant, with some newsworthy quotes..

It appears he didn't want to ride the Tour 2012 at first, he wanted to try Giro/Vuelta, but the Rabobank more or less pressured/convinced him into going to the Tour.
He also said he thinks the decision from Rabobank to stop is completely wrong and the reason is stupid. He says they are being punished for something that happened years ago and also says the culture has changed a lot in recent years. He also said he never had any 'medical' support and they can control him all they want (then again, Armstrong said so as well lol).

He also says what Armstrong did was not top sport but top logistics and had more to do with maffia practices than with cycling. He says in the winter months he often thought "against what kind of guys have I ridden all these years and did it hurt my palmares, thinking of Rebellin (who beat him in PN) Mosquera, Valverde ... "
He also says he suspects some other riders whos performances he doesn't believe, but says he won't call them out with no proof ("they could also say, what a strange rider that Gesink, winning California after a broken leg, could also be suspected).
Lol, what a Calimero.

Though it's better than Valverde and Nibali interviews about Armstrong.
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Old 12-15-12, 17:26
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weak from gesink by putting the blame on someone else and not on himself. don't like it

but i still like the guy and wish him a good giro.
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weak from gesink by putting the blame on someone else and not on himself. don't like it

but i still like the guy and wish him a good giro.
weak?
I don't know, if I was a clean rider I'd have the same thoughts.
However, if I was a cyclist I wouldn't be clean my morals aren't that high. I'd do anything to win
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Old 12-15-12, 18:01
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weak?
I don't know, if I was a clean rider I'd have the same thoughts.
However, if I was a cyclist I wouldn't be clean my morals aren't that high. I'd do anything to win
Props for an honest answer
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Old 12-15-12, 23:28
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weak?
I don't know, if I was a clean rider I'd have the same thoughts.
However, if I was a cyclist I wouldn't be clean my morals aren't that high. I'd do anything to win
An admission of your mtb practices ?
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Old 12-16-12, 07:37
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In other news, big interview with Gesink in the Volkskrant, with some newsworthy quotes..

It appears he didn't want to ride the Tour 2012 at first, he wanted to try Giro/Vuelta, but the Rabobank more or less pressured/convinced him into going to the Tour.
He also said he thinks the decision from Rabobank to stop is completely wrong and the reason is stupid. He says they are being punished for something that happened years ago and also says the culture has changed a lot in recent years. He also said he never had any 'medical' support and they can control him all they want (then again, Armstrong said so as well lol).

He also says what Armstrong did was not top sport but top logistics and had more to do with maffia practices than with cycling. He says in the winter months he often thought "against what kind of guys have I ridden all these years and did it hurt my palmares, thinking of Rebellin (who beat him in PN) Mosquera, Valverde ... "
He also says he suspects some other riders whos performances he doesn't believe, but says he won't call them out with no proof ("they could also say, what a strange rider that Gesink, winning California after a broken leg, could also be suspected).
This is nonsense, he was talking about 2013.

It was a good interview, but it's a bit strange why among those dopers that cost him results he doesn't name a certain T. Dekker, for instance.
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Old 12-16-12, 17:14
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This is nonsense, he was talking about 2013.

It was a good interview, but it's a bit strange why among those dopers that cost him results he doesn't name a certain T. Dekker, for instance.
because t.dekker was a direct teammate so it didn't really cost gesink any wins did it?
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Old 12-16-12, 17:47
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because t.dekker was a direct teammate so it didn't really cost gesink any wins did it?
He worked for TD a few times... and of course TD was part of Rabobank's eventual demise.
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