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View Poll Results: Who had the Best Season in The Last 5 Years?
Contador '09 2 2.04%
Wiggins '12 14 14.29%
Evans '11 3 3.06%
Gilbert '11 53 54.08%
Contador '11 0 0%
Contador '08 16 16.33%
Boonen '12 6 6.12%
Cancellara '10 2 2.04%
Rodriguez '12 0 0%
Other. 2 2.04%
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Old 12-16-12, 18:29
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Uh, Gent-Wevelgem has changed position on the calender so many times that it really isn't a fair comparison. Route has also changed a dozen times already.

Besides, E3 Harelbeke > G-W.

It's not even that, Boonen slowed done after April. Gilbert didn't.
But after April there was really only Ronde van BelgiŽ before the nationals for Boonen. Then he won that and got injured at Pologne before the OG, but still had a more than decent autumn.
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Old 12-16-12, 18:32
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But after April there was really only Ronde van België before the nationals for Boonen. Then he won that and got injured at Pologne before the OG, but still had a more than decent autumn.
Yeah, that's what makes Gilbert's season better even if purely result wise it may not appear like that at first glance.

That broken rib didn't really hurt Boonen's chances much anyway. Boonen rode California by the way, not Belgium. He wasn't fast enough anymore to beat Sagan.

Maybe if Boonen raced more actively at the Olympics, won a GT stage and finished his season at Paris-Tours à la Degenkolb(but win instead). Even now Boonen still says what Gilbert did at the Belgian Nats in 2011 was the craziest thing he ever saw in his career.
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horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
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Yeah, that's what makes Gilbert's season better even if purely result wise it may not appear like that at first glance.

That broken rib didn't really hurt Boonen's chances much anyway. Boonen rode California by the way, not Belgium. He wasn't fast enough anymore to beat Sagan.
I know he didn't ride RvB, but it was the only race that suited him before the nats.
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Uh, Gent-Wevelgem has changed position on the calender so many times that it really isn't a fair comparison. Route has also changed a dozen times already.

Besides, E3 Harelbeke > G-W.

It's not even that, Boonen slowed done after April. Gilbert didn't.
+ it is not only about what they won. i think it's more important how they won, and who they beat.
Gilbert annihilated his competition. Purito, the Sclecks, etc.. they had no chance in the Ardennes. He beat Boonen with incredible ease in the nationals. He made Cancellara's move look foolish at the end of stage 1 in le Tour. (i know, it wasnt his terrain, but still) Boonen won the Ronde and Roubaix in the absence of Fabian
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Yeah lombardia organizers once again being anti Gilbert and staging the race in October when they knew he'd be off form
There's 2 cobbled Monuments in a short span of time. The two hilly Monuments are months apart. It's much easier to peak for one period than to peak for 2 or even 3 different periods.

Besides, AGR, FW and LBL have about the same field these days. If they change to finish of the AGR(a few km after the Cauberg) and the ridiculous name it could one day become the sixth Monument. Paris-Tours used to have that honour, but glory long gone.

Ronde van Limburg would be the perfect name for the AGR.
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horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
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08 AC

Is this the last time we will ever see one man win two GT in a single season?
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No love for '12 Schleck?

I vote '08 Contador.

'12 Boonen = no Cancellara and nothing important after the classics
'12 Wiggins = no Contador, Schlecks, off form Evans, no real mountains
'11 Gilbert = 1 monument, no worlds
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Besides, AGR, FW and LBL have about the same field these days. If they change to finish of the AGR(a few km after the Cauberg) and the ridiculous name it could one day become the sixth Monument. Paris-Tours used to have that honour, but glory long gone.

Ronde van Limburg would be the perfect name for the AGR.
No, that would be worse than renaming the Giro di Lombardia to Il Lombardia.
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No, that would be worse than renaming the Giro di Lombardia to Il Lombardia.
Who in their right mind wants a race named after bad beer?
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horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
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He must be sleep deprived and hit the wrong key or his hand slipped on his mouse. Mod's s/b getting a personal message from him asking to have it changed.
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