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View Poll Results: Better overall rider
Cadel Evans 34 22.08%
Alberto Contador 120 77.92%
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Old 12-17-12, 21:52
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In 2008 Evans had 68 racing days

2011: 57
2012: 52
There goes that failed argument. That Evans, what a slacker!
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Old 12-17-12, 22:05
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2009- 87
Which resulted in his abject failure at that year's Tour and his subsequent adoption of a "lighter" programme.
Sums up the whole argument, really.
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Old 12-18-12, 03:14
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Which resulted in his abject failure at that year's Tour and his subsequent adoption of a "lighter" programme.
Sums up the whole argument, really.
Very true. No coincidence that Evans improves at the same time as he eases up his racing schedule.
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I'm amazed that this is even debatable. How have we gotten to 22 pages? Contador isn't that hard to spell is it?

Sure, Evans is an excellent all-round racer with a decent palmares who will be remembered and compared to riders like Vino, Valverde, Sastre or Nibali.

Contador however, will be compared to Coppi, Anquetil, Hinault, Indurain and LeMond.

One is very, very good. The other is an all time great.
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Old 12-18-12, 06:56
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Evans
2009- 87
2008- 68
2007- 85

Of course, more race days doesn't necessarily mean one rider is better than another. Quality over quantity like El P said. Nothing wrong with racing around 50-60 days as long as the rider gets the results.

Thank you, much obliged.

And you might also go on with the other seasons as well: 2006, 2010, it would be all the same. Full prime Evans was a true pro. When past his prime, he's eased up calendar and no longer the same rider.

And then you can go on with the other riders: Nibali, Gilbert, Boonen, Rodriguez, Cancellara, ...

That's the proof that there's a BIG BIG BIG problem with that Contador guy.
He's a disgrace. A lazy bourgeois spoiled brat with delusions of grandeur
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Take Chavanel for instance. That guy had this year a very long season on the road. More than 80 days, I think. And last week, in December, he still raced a cyclocross in Pontchâteau. That is what I call a champion. Not the other diva.

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Old 12-18-12, 11:16
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Enjoy your forthcoming vacation.

Evans climbed off his bike in August, this year.
The year before, he interrupted his round of opening supermarkets to swan around, finishing nowhere in a joke of a race in the US......in August.

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cycli...826-1jdg4.html

Milan-Turin 26th September.
He was going to ride the World's and the two US races but sickness put an end to that and he just got worse after the Tour. He usually likes to ride Lombardy as well. So there is another ten days or so he would have ridden. Lack of motivation after his disappointment in the Tour wouldn't have helped although the World's course usually would have been a good one for him.
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Old 12-18-12, 11:29
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I'm amazed that this is even debatable. How have we gotten to 22 pages? Contador isn't that hard to spell is it?

Sure, Evans is an excellent all-round racer with a decent palmares who will be remembered and compared to riders like Vino, Valverde, Sastre or Nibali.

Contador however, will be compared to Coppi, Anquetil, Hinault, Indurain and LeMond.

One is very, very good. The other is an all time great.
Contador has a way to go to reach the level of the riders you mentioned and he isn't an all time great yet. At least with the first three names on the list. Evans palmares is better than Nibali's and Sastre's and Vino's. Close to Valverde and Valverde has a much better classics record but I think Evans GT record is better than Valverde's.
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Contador has a way to go to reach the level of the riders...
plus additional purification by means of calx & sandpaper
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Contador has a way to go to reach the level of the riders you mentioned and he isn't an all time great yet. At least with the first three names on the list. Evans palmares is better than Nibali's and Sastre's and Vino's. Close to Valverde and Valverde has a much better classics record but I think Evans GT record is better than Valverde's.
Contador may not be an all time great yet, but at 29 years old, it is only a matter of time. His stage race record is as good as any of the riders I mentioned and he is only the second rider to win all three GT's more than once, after Hinault (IF you count the 2011 Giro).
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That's the proof that there's a BIG BIG BIG problem with that Contador guy.
He's a disgrace. A lazy bourgeois spoiled brat with delusions of grandeur
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Wow wow wow take it easy dude. You clearly don't know anything about Alberto. He is not lazy, not spoiled and not a brat and most of all not a disgrace. Do everyone including yourself a favor and stop this silly argument because you're only making a fool of yourself.
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