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View Poll Results: Best Uphill Sprinter From Those 4? (6-8%)
A.Valverde 11 11.11%
P.Gilbert 55 55.56%
J.Rodriguez 15 15.15%
P.Sagan 18 18.18%
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Old 12-19-12, 22:22
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Gilbert unless he was ill...with Sagan hot on his wheels.

Agree Cadel is scrappy and tough on this too...
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Old 12-20-12, 08:25
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Rodriguez was a domestique for Valverde. Look how good he is now...

Uhm, Valverde has lost many races because he was afraid to go for it... If Evans, Valverde and Gilbert all had worked together they could've caught Vino and Kolobnev.

The WC is the perfect race for Valverde. Hilly, but not too hard, so often ends in a sprint. It's amazing how he hasn't won it yet.
Rodriguez IS a great rider,but when he was in Caisse he wasnt as good as Valverde cos of this he was a superdom.
Really how do you know it?How did you calculate it?Kolobnev and Vino were in super fitness so its not clear.I remember that Evans and Phil rode hard and wasnt enough.
Wc is perfect race?you cant say this in general...but always there was someone better Boonen,Freire,Evans etc. Now the chances from sprint are gone because Sagan is here
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what? quintana is already better climber than froome. see final stages of the tour and he's only 23. quintana is the best climber I've sene since pantani. he will become a legend
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He was still 24 when he became world champ.

Sagan will be 23 very soon. And yeah like I said, let's wait a little before we call him the best for the next 10 years because we all know what happened to VDB. Sadly. So you kinda agree if you forget my analogy.
yeah a massive one month away from his 25th birthday and sagan is now almost 23, yes but earlier in the year he wasn't my god you really do your best a ant f*cking (mierenneuken) right?

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wasn't kreuziger supposed to be the next god back in 08 when he won the TdS only a month after turning 22?

to he honest with this eastern europeans guys i like to take it carefully
only to those who were blind. it was very clear he was at early physical peak. sagan it doesn't matter. he's so good even if he didn't grow anymore he'd be the best in the world.
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All depends on length.

If it is only a short ramp of 6-8% then it's always Gilbert. But if it's a whole 1-2km then Rodriguez is more able to challenge. Who knows about Sagan given his epic Chieti ride which showed strong resistance (plus his win in Seraing) then you have actual uphill sprint of Bolougne-sur-Mer. Most notably though the other two were not present in top on those days.
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All depends on length.

If it is only a short ramp of 6-8% then it's always Gilbert. But if it's a whole 1-2km then Rodriguez is more able to challenge. Who knows about Sagan given his epic Chieti ride which showed strong resistance (plus his win in Seraing) then you have actual uphill sprint of Bolougne-sur-Mer. Most notably though the other two were not present in top on those days.
How short do you think the Cauberg is?
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horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
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Hushovd, then Evans.
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How short do you think the Cauberg is?
lol, Cauberg is like 300m at 8%+.
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lol, Cauberg is like 300m at 8%+.
It's 1.2km at 6% average.
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horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
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Old 12-20-12, 14:30
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Yeh, so a whole 70m vertical. Think Purito would need 100+
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