Klöden named in Freiburg report

[Mellow Velo]

So, now it's official. It's all gone away.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/klod...-investigation


I find the German attitude incredibly hard to fathom.
On the face of it, they are the most anti-doping hard liners on the planet.
German tv cancels their national tour. All their media coverage pulled from the Tour, due to ongoing doping revelations surrounding the race.
Endless moral preaching in their press.

Yet, when it comes to dishing out justice to an implicated rider, it's a quick back hander to effectively turn a blind eye.

[craig1985]

And he is still considered innocent!

[Cobblestones]

Originally Posted by Mellow Velo

So, now it's official. It's all gone away.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/klod...-investigation


I find the German attitude incredibly hard to fathom.
On the face of it, they are the most anti-doping hard liners on the planet.
German tv cancels their national tour. All their media coverage pulled from the Tour, due to ongoing doping revelations surrounding the race.
Endless moral preaching in their press.

Yet, when it comes to dishing out justice to an implicated rider, it's a quick back hander to effectively turn a blind eye.

For the last time, this is the civil suit. It would have decided whether Kloden defrauded the T mobile team by taking PEDs. This suit was kind of a farce anyway, since most likely, doping was team sanctioned.

It is not the decision whether to ban Kloden or not. That lies with the Swiss Federation who issued Kloden's racing license. Don't blame the German's, blame the Swiss. They haven't gotten their a$$es in gear. I'm sure the Germans (unlike the Spanish in the case of the OP) would like to share their evidence with the Swiss if they'd bother to ask. Or, looking at it from a different angle: why do you think Kloden, Ullrich etc. were racing with a Swiss license, and not a German one?

[scribe]

Freebird forever.

[python]

Originally Posted by Cobblestones

For the last time, this is the civil suit. It would have decided whether Kloden defrauded the T mobile team by taking PEDs. This suit was kind of a farce anyway, since most likely, doping was team sanctioned.

It is not the decision whether to ban Kloden or not. That lies with the Swiss Federation who issued Kloden's racing license. Don't blame the German's, blame the Swiss. They haven't gotten their a$$es in gear. I'm sure the Germans (unlike the Spanish in the case of the OP) would like to share their evidence with the Swiss if they'd bother to ask. Or, looking at it from a different angle: why do you think Kloden, Ullrich etc. were racing with a Swiss license, and not a German one?

it's a valid point. i have not seen anywhere a clear statement as to what exactly the civil suit was about. if as you say doping was sanctioned by the "team" it would be important to know who was defrauded under the tag "team" in a legal sense - the team management or the corporate tmobile entity. i can see your point but if tmobile corporation pushed the defrauding card i don't see the case being dropped so easily. still, i trust it would be fairly easy to establish if kloeden attended the clinic and received the transfusion. there mustof been more parities to the affair than just sinkewitz.

[Cobblestones]

Originally Posted by python

it's a valid point. i have not seen anywhere a clear statement as to what exactly the civil suit was about. if as you say doping was sanctioned by the "team" it would be important to know who was defrauded under the tag "team" in a legal sense - the team management or the corporate tmobile entity. i can see your point but if tmobile corporation pushed the defrauding card i don't see the case being dropped so easily. still, i trust it would be fairly easy to establish if kloeden attended the clinic and received the transfusion. there mustof been more parities to the affair than just sinkewitz.

It seems that T mobile was not interested in this suit. I think it was brought forward by a civil prosecutor, not the T mobile team. This might have been the reason it went the way it did. By the way, it's the same outcome as for Ullrich (although he might have paid ten times as much).

[Fourier]

I guess the right amount of money will buy you out of a suspension. He'll fit right in on The Shack.

[blackcat]

wonder how he feels being cuckolded into StrongArm's empire.