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Old 12-22-12, 13:50
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Yeah, so you also say AGR and the Ronde are different races?

Funny how Ryo agrees with you considering he said Ronde and AGR are basically the same only AGR has a better field. LOL.

Ok, Gaspa IS better in an uphill sprint. But Devolder beats him in most other things, at least the Devolder of 2008-2010. The current Devolder is a joke.
yes I guess you don't understand the word BASICALLY, which means it is very similar but in some things different.
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Old 12-22-12, 13:56
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yes I guess you don't understand the word BASICALLY, which means it is very similar but in some things different.
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In the most essential respects; fundamentally: "a basically simple idea".
Used to indicate that a statement summarizes the most important aspects of a more complex situation.

Yeah, no.

You say AGR is 95% uphill(you agreed with Vino attacks everyone) and then you say AGR is basically the same as the Ronde van Vlaanderen even though you also agreed that the Ronde is a more tactic race because it doesn't finish uphill.

Man, you contradict your self faster than Popeye eats spinach.

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horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
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Old 12-22-12, 14:05
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Yeah, so you also say AGR and the Ronde are different races?
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well yea, I just responded on your unfair treatment of Gaspa
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well yea, I just responded on your unfair treatment of Gaspa
Hardly unfair. Gaspa is better in uphill finishes and since his third place in LBL also better in that race(although Devolder has never taken LBL seriously because Flanders is his home race). But overall, it's definitely Devolder. Well, the one of 2 years ago. Just about everyone is better than Volderke now.
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horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
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Old 12-22-12, 14:09
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Used to indicate that a statement summarizes the most important aspects of a more complex situation.

Yeah, no.

You say AGR is 95% uphill(you agreed with Vino attacks everyone) and then you say AGR is basically the same as the Ronde van Vlaanderen even though you also agreed that the Ronde is a more tactic race because it doesn't finish uphill.

Man, you contradict your self faster than Popeye eats spinach.

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no the agr the rider with strongets push wins, tour of flanders, this can be someone else.

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no the agr the rider with strongets push wins, tour of flanders, this cab be someone else.
Ivanov won in 2009 despite Phil having a better push.

Then there's Schumacher and Frank Schleck...
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horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
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Hardly unfair. Gaspa is better in uphill finishes and since his third place in LBL also better in that race(although Devolder has never taken LBL seriously because Flanders is his home race). But overall, it's definitely Devolder. Well, the one of 2 years ago. Just about everyone is better than Volderke now.
I think you are really the only one who thinsk devolder is or 3was better than gasparotto. also 2-3 years ago, which the only reason he won flanders was because he was boonens teammate
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Ivanov won in 2009 despite Phil having a better push.

Then there's Schumacher and Frank Schleck...
no. gilbert dropped on the keuteberg. so the strongest went to teh cauberg and the strongest of those, which was ivanov, won.
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Old 12-22-12, 14:18
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Hardly unfair. Gaspa is better in uphill finishes and since his third place in LBL also better in that race(although Devolder has never taken LBL seriously because Flanders is his home race). But overall, it's definitely Devolder. Well, the one of 2 years ago. Just about everyone is better than Volderke now.
Well Gaspa has never really tried the RVV either. He is a good mountain domestique in the half hard mountains (this yer often the last man for Tira/Kreuziger in the giro) so his peak goes from AGR to after all the giro, instead of over the classics
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no. gilbert dropped on the keuteberg. so the strongest went to teh cauberg and the strongest of those, which was ivanov, won.
Yeah Ivanov attacked 4 times or more that day, but over the last 3 years GIlbert has become better and better. The 2009 Gilbert is in no way comparable to the one from 2011 and later.

And GIlbert will probably be a factor in the Ronde as well if he's on form, with the hard course, only the Kwaremont doesn't perfectly suit him.
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