Sky - Page 1033 - Cyclingnews Forum

Go Back   Cyclingnews Forum > Road > The Clinic

The Clinic The Clinic is the only place on Cyclingnews where you can discuss doping-related issues. Ask questions, discuss positives or improvements to procedures.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #10321  
Old 12-22-12, 19:04
thehog's Avatar
thehog thehog is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 14,899
Default

We need full and open disclosure from Wiggins on the matter. He is the Tour de France champion and I'd like to hear him make some form of statement in regards to Leinders.

The silence is deafening.
Reply With Quote
  #10322  
Old 12-22-12, 19:14
MartinGT's Avatar
MartinGT MartinGT is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Leeds, UK
Posts: 1,459
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ebandit View Post
but while delivering the news.........you mock jimmy?

hoggie if only you acted as you request others to act.........this thread is
full of inconsistancies in your actions

news about leinders is pre team sky.............leinders has now left team sky

we need to know exactly how he looked after team sky riders
One of teh very few questions we shall never know, but we need to know.

BUT

I read this;

Quote:
news about leinders is pre team sky.............leinders has now left team sky
And I read it like:

"It was pre Team Sky, whilst at Sky he wasnt a doper and a clean lad, if he is found guilty of doping at another team its fine, he never supplied or administered doping supplies at Sky"
Reply With Quote
  #10323  
Old 12-22-12, 19:20
the sceptic's Avatar
the sceptic the sceptic is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,665
Default

So when is Brailsford gonna consider leaving along with the others? Wasnt he supposed to only hire doctors and staff with no doping past? Seems like hes pretty incompetent at that.
Reply With Quote
  #10324  
Old 12-22-12, 19:33
peterst6906 peterst6906 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 671
Default

Although referring to Katusha when it was said, I think the secret pro expressed it the best and showed that in the peleton, the attitude is similar to the belief in the clinic:

Quote:
In cycling, where there's smoke, there's fire.
Given all that has been said and shown about both Lenders and Sky, there is a strong smell about this issue that I hope we do see resolved one day. I don't have any confidence that it will be in the short term though.
Reply With Quote
  #10325  
Old 12-22-12, 19:38
MartinGT's Avatar
MartinGT MartinGT is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Leeds, UK
Posts: 1,459
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ebandit View Post
it would be better for team sky......................however cycling fans deserve to know the truth................good or bad
ebandit, you are spot on.

BUT

I dont think we ever will, the recent departure of Rogers, he left more or less undetected. The British media hardly picked up on it so I doubt they will pick up on this news.
Reply With Quote
  #10326  
Old 12-22-12, 19:39
King Of The Wolds King Of The Wolds is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 944
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thehog View Post
We need full and open disclosure from Wiggins on the matter. He is the Tour de France champion and I'd like to hear him make some form of statement in regards to Leinders.

The silence is deafening.
You want a guy who had nothing to do with the hiring of Leinders to make a statement about an unconfirmed report about a guy who's just been fired from this guy's team for the reason in the report? Yeah, deafening.

And why haven't you answered the previous question on Leinders and Ferrari? The silence is deafening.
Reply With Quote
  #10327  
Old 12-22-12, 19:41
Benotti69's Avatar
Benotti69 Benotti69 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 12,991
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by peterst6906 View Post
Although referring to Katusha when it was said, I think the secret pro expressed it the best and showed that in the peleton, the attitude is similar to the belief in the clinic:

Given all that has been said and shown about both Lenders and Sky, there is a strong smell about this issue that I hope we do see resolved one day. I don't have any confidence that it will be in the short term though.
Leinder's is the reason Sky won so much this year. Sky doped their GT team of that I have no doubt.
__________________
"ahaha, ever had the feeling you been cheated?" JL SF Jan'78
Reply With Quote
  #10328  
Old 12-22-12, 20:06
MartinGT's Avatar
MartinGT MartinGT is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Leeds, UK
Posts: 1,459
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Of The Wolds View Post
You want a guy who had nothing to do with the hiring of Leinders to make a statement about an unconfirmed report about a guy who's just been fired from this guy's team for the reason in the report? Yeah, deafening.

And why haven't you answered the previous question on Leinders and Ferrari? The silence is deafening.
Wiggins wouldnt allow Kimmage with them. Wiggins is road captain of the team, his statement would mean something.
Reply With Quote
  #10329  
Old 12-22-12, 20:12
King Of The Wolds King Of The Wolds is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 944
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinGT View Post
Wiggins wouldnt allow Kimmage with them. Wiggins is road captain of the team, his statement would mean something.
Given the conditions I just stated in my post, what on earth do you expect him to say?

He isn't road captain, by the way.
Reply With Quote
  #10330  
Old 12-22-12, 20:23
JimmyFingers's Avatar
JimmyFingers JimmyFingers is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinGT View Post
Wiggins wouldnt allow Kimmage with them. Wiggins is road captain of the team, his statement would mean something.
That was 2010 right? And Kimmage was allowed access, just not for the first 8 days of the tour, and Kimmage refused those conditions. I don't believe that has any bearing.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 14:07.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2006 - 2009 Future Publishing Limited. All rights reserved. Future Publishing Limited is part of the Future plc group. Future Publishing Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company registration number 2008885 whose registered office is at Beauford Court 30 Monmouth Street Bath, UK BA1 2BW England.