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Old 08-27-12, 12:04
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My interpretation was that they were saying this is the ceiling. And that, if someone can sustain 450, they can't be beaten by a clean rider. (Allowing for weight, of course.)

Of course, you raise a good point: how are these people hitting the maximum of human capability?
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Old 08-27-12, 12:10
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So from that "article" which basically argued racal supremacy of brits - physically and morally superior.


So if Richie Porte, is riding 440 watts right, Rich frickin porte, not even Domenico Pozzovivo or Bauke Mollema or Peter Velits, or anyone who has actually ridden with the heads of state up a mountain for once in their lives.

Richie Porte is pushing out 440, and anyone who goes 500 must be doping?
Apparently. Some of these riders are just so stupid, they don't know when to shut up.
It is like the saying "born on third base and thought he hit a triple". These guys get doped up and think they really are superior.
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Old 09-05-12, 18:47
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Here we go, just to complete the "definitive" prima facie series:

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Old 09-06-12, 07:20
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Here we go, just to complete the "definitive" prima facie series:

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Old 12-22-12, 16:04
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Interesting that control has shifted to Liquigas the last 2 stages. Rogers and Porte are fading, leaving Wiggins and Froome to cover Liquigas moves. Here's a scenario: Liquigas have waited to the Pyrenees to attack Sky as a planned team strategy.
That didn't play out to well! Sky dominated start to finish. No one stood a chance.

With the revelations just released on Lienders I think Sky have some explaining to do.

Looking forward to PK's updates.
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That didn't play out to well! Sky dominated start to finish. No one stood a chance.

With the revelations just released on Lienders I think Sky have some explaining to do.

Looking forward to PK's updates.
it's not only Sky who's got some splainin to do.
think of all those who've vouched for Sky's cleanlihood knowing damn well what was/is going on there.
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Old 12-23-12, 14:55
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And what exactly was going on there?

More supposition. It's way too early to come to the conclusions you are coming to. In time, maybe, maybe not, but it'll all depend on firm evidence, not coincidence. As it stands, we still don't know what Leinders role at Rabobank actually was, let alone during his brief time at Sky.
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And what exactly was going on there?

More supposition. It's way too early to come to the conclusions you are coming to. In time, maybe, maybe not, but it'll all depend on firm evidence, not coincidence. As it stands, we still don't know what Leinders role at Rabobank actually was, let alone during his brief time at Sky.
He stopped doping in 2006 and was only treating saddle sores while at Sky.
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Old 12-23-12, 15:27
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And what exactly was going on there?

More supposition. It's way too early to come to the conclusions you are coming to. In time, maybe, maybe not, but it'll all depend on firm evidence, not coincidence. As it stands, we still don't know what Leinders role at Rabobank actually was, let alone during his brief time at Sky.
What you suggest is suppression not supposition.

It's important to discuss these issue to find out this information.

We should not suppress discussion on such matters.

We don't want another 'Armstrong Affair". I don't want to be reading about the 'Wiggins Affair" in 5 years time.

We need this information from Sky. They've sat on the detail for long enough.

Personally, I'm in shock. It's 2002 all over again.
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Old 12-23-12, 15:40
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What you suggest is suppression not supposition.

It's important to discuss these issue to find out this information.

We should not suppress discussion on such matters.
very true. same in most sciences. without plausible speculation and inferences you won't make any advances.

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... It's 2002 all over again.
well, there's something to say for JV's claim that "it's so much cleaner now."
just microdoping viz. passport bandwidth doping nowadays.
no more unrestricted bloodspinning like in the dark age...
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