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View Poll Results: Boni Seconds in the tour? Bring it Back?
Yes. 31 41.89%
Yes but only on flat stages. 6 8.11%
Yes but limited (eg. 10/6/4) 16 21.62%
No. 21 28.38%
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Old 12-24-12, 06:24
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I'm going for yes, except in the TT.
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I'm going for yes, except in the TT.
I thought you said you "had been following Grand Tours for 30 years". There are no bonus seconds in TT's. UCI rule 2.6.021

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Old 12-24-12, 11:18
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I think no. It discourages attacking on mountain stages, look what the Vuelta & Giro turned Rodriguez into, guy never attacks further than 3k out because he knows he can just take up 20sec every day.
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Maybe in the Giro, but there were attacks EVERYDAY in the Vuelta with Contador winning it with a huge one from nowhere.

Remember, the Tour also usually has less big attacks than any other GT because people are too afraid to blow it and the big teams make it hard.
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I voted for the limited option, but it can be used on mountains as well, which will confuse Sky train tactics when riders gain on them, without actually attacking them.
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Maybe in the Giro, but there were attacks EVERYDAY in the Vuelta with Contador winning it with a huge one from nowhere.

Remember, the Tour also usually has less big attacks than any other GT because people are too afraid to blow it and the big teams make it hard.
What? This year the Tour had more "big attacks" than both Giro and Vuelta. Giro and Vuelta only had one big attack each one, Stelvio and Fuente Dé, every other stage was an uphill sprint finish.
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What? This year the Tour had more "big attacks" than both Giro and Vuelta. Giro and Vuelta only had one big attack each one, Stelvio and Fuente Dé, every other stage was an uphill sprint finish.
That's because by your definition any attack in the 2012 tour was a big attack because the mountains were all 50+km away. But how many of those big attacks even had a chance of succeeding?
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A big fat no. It encourages riders with a sprint to wheel suck and wait for the last 500m or so. GTs should be decided on who completes the course in the shortest time not who of the contenders has the best sprint. If a rider wants to gain 20seconds they should grit their teeth and earn it, metre by metre on the road.
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A big fat no. It encourages riders with a sprint to wheel suck and wait for the last 500m or so. GTs should be decided on who completes the course in the shortest time not who of the contenders has the best sprint. If a rider wants to gain 20seconds they should grit their teeth and earn it, metre by metre on the road.
Yeah but when every gt has a ttt they arent earning it metre by metre either.
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Yeah but when every gt has a ttt they arent earning it metre by metre either.
But the solution to that is to get rid of the TTTs, not distort it further with bonuses.
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