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Old 12-24-12, 05:39
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I'm saddened
Don't be sad, be happy. Pay heed to Paul Weller:

"...you're just a dreamer if you don't realise
and the sooner you do will be the better for you
then we'll all be happy and we'll all be wise
and we'll all bow down to the burning SKY

then we'll all be happy and we'll all be wise
and together we will live beneath the burning SKY."
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It's 2004.... all over again.
I thought you said it was 2002, again?

Make your mind up, I'm getting vertigo from all the time travel.
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An interesting perspective.
Another WT team, another rider named in affidavit in USADA's report
as a big player in the dope dealing stakes.
How this for screening?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/vaca...ng-allegations

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"Bole, in front of our doctor, our lawyer, his manager and me underpinned his innocence by answering a few questions. He thereby denied having engaged in doping."
Of course, they don't have a zero tolerance policy, but in the light of Katusha's UCI cold shoulder.........
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Old 12-24-12, 09:49
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Come on, since when is the ability to answer a few questions with "no" not a sign of a clear conscience?

BTW I don't see the difference between what Vacansoleil are doing and the Sky approach.
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Old 12-24-12, 10:16
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Come on, since when is the ability to answer a few questions with "no" not a sign of a clear conscience?

BTW I don't see the difference between what Vacansoleil are doing and the Sky approach.
Sounds exactly the same, although Bole passed and Rogers et al failed (not that there aren't dopers on Sky's payroll who managed to pass).
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Old 12-24-12, 10:56
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there's one thing I would like to say about bole. a friend of me personally, an italian knew bole pretty well as an u23 and junior rider. bole tried all he could to get on an italian team(via my friend) and out of slovenian u23 racing. bole said it was full of dope and he didn't want any of it. now it might be that bole either lied(my friend believed him and he had reasons) or that he changed his attitude as a pro, or that he is indeed clean.
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Come on, since when is the ability to answer a few questions with "no" not a sign of a clear conscience?

BTW I don't see the difference between what Vacansoleil are doing and the Sky approach.

No, I agree. Very much the same.
That's why I posted it, not to lay blame.
Short of employing a few ex-Interpol dics, teams have either to accept
the word or rider in question, or the rider/report/news links naming names.
Only probable difference is that Sky would now opt for caution, while Vacan have stood by their man.
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Old 12-24-12, 12:47
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Again.
If true, this I find quite compelling.
Would like to read that at source.
Good that somebody around here has done their homework.
Paris-Nice

http://www.teamsky.com/article/0,272...552127,00.html

Romandie

http://www.teamsky.com/article/0,272...692582,00.html

Dauphine

http://www.teamsky.com/article/0,272...784970,00.html
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...except Brailsford proclaimed in 2009 when setting up Sky that all team doctors would come from outside cycling to prevent any suspicion. He then went against that policy to sign... Leinders, of all people. I suppose Fuentes and Ferrari were unavailable.
Very silly to use those two names, Leinders is very far from their level, although I can see how it suits the agenda to make him so. He is still missing an entry on dopeology and so far we have just hearsay. Lazy
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Thanks for that. There, in b+w. I bet they wish it wasn't.
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